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jamescagney22:

--- Quote from: Warden John Marcone on July 06, 2017, 11:07:39 PM ---Was Cristos his apprentice though?  I don't remember reading anything about that.

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At the end of Turn Coat when he made Senior Council by blackmail Ebenezar mentioned that he was LaFortier's apprentice and that he was a Warden during the Rakshasa event in White Night. Which in hindsight may have been a Black Council method to get him on the Senior Council, we will know soon enough.

Zaphodess:
It didn't say "apprentice" though, just protégé. Which might very well mean that he used to be his apprentice. Cristos can't be that young any more or his appointment to the SC would be an absolute joke. So maybe it wasn't polite to call him someone's apprentice.

I had an idea about Archangel, based on the RPG info about what Simon did in 1918. (click to show/hide)He had lots of apprentices who he used to command around. Larisa was over 30 and had been an apprentice since age 7. So what if Archangel was more like a magic school or training camp, specialising in turning out future Wardens?

Ok, I know the RPG is not canon strictly speaking. But the info is usually good.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Zaphodess on July 07, 2017, 10:31:55 AM ---It didn't say "apprentice" though, just protégé. Which might very well mean that he used to be his apprentice. Cristos can't be that young any more or his appointment to the SC would be an absolute joke. So maybe it wasn't polite to call him someone's apprentice.

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Agreed, though given the Centuries long timeline we're talking he could have become his protoge /after/ he gained full Council Status.  Apprenticeship seems to last a decade or so at most, during a wizards first 2-3 of them.  Meanwhile they arent given full respect until they've reached a century of membership (as denoted by the stole colors), so that's 70+ years that it would make sense for older Wizards to take the younger (but still full members under their proverbial wings). 

Similarly, in peacetime at least you'd need to be a full member before joining the wardens, so a protoge could accurately describe a quasi-Master/apprentice relationship during that phase of training. 

Hell, in SK or TC they were arguing that McCoy had not been with Harry long enough to call him his Apprentice, so protoge would be the next logical term

All that to say that Apprenticeship is a far more specific and formalized relationship to the WC, whereas protoge is a synonym being used in a more generic way. 

jamescagney22:
Well in that case perhaps LaFortier was a Warden as masters and apprentices tend to share similar styles of magic, Ebenezar-Harry-Molly- very good at combat very different how they approach it.

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