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New Blackstaff discussion
Rasins:
--- Quote from: jonas on July 07, 2017, 05:19:57 PM ---They can kill with magic because they act in compliance with the balance, they don't break free will. Mortal magic taints when it breaks cosmic laws tied to freedom of will. Pretty sure the whole point of the WK is to act as a buffer for Mab, to keep HER from getting the taint. By giving the job of violating free will to her disposable subordinate. Also, when she keeps him in the bullpen too long highjinx start up pretty steadily in the winter court.
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Huh?
--- Quote from: Quantus on July 07, 2017, 05:40:11 PM ---Lea did some (presumably illusion-based) killing in GS while taking turns as the Rag Lady. Also likely had some collateral damage during Changes, but that's just conjecture.
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I thought that the killings were speculated to have been committed by Leah, but we really don't know.
jonas:
--- Quote from: Rasins on July 07, 2017, 06:18:14 PM ---Huh?
I thought that the killings were speculated to have been committed by Leah, but we really don't know.
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Gotta reread SK man. They can't force you but they can glamour you, they can make deals, they can kill mortals whom have chosen to get involved in the courts affairs or otherwise provoke them. Lea basically went about teaching Molly how to inspire fear without actually violating the laws themselves, by doing precisely what the Sidhe have done all along.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: jonas on July 07, 2017, 06:29:26 PM ---Gotta reread SK man. They can't force you but they can glamour you, they can make deals, they can kill mortals whom have chosen to get involved in the courts affairs or otherwise provoke them. Lea basically went about teaching Molly how to inspire fear without actually violating the laws themselves, by doing precisely what the Sidhe have done all along.
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I think it's only the queens that can't kill unaffiliated mortals -- nothing has been stopping trolls from eating children or the Redcap from murdering travelers.
So long as you're not actually a queen, you're free to kill whoever you want.
Rasins:
--- Quote from: jonas on July 07, 2017, 06:29:26 PM ---Gotta reread SK man. They can't force you but they can glamour you, they can make deals, they can kill mortals whom have chosen to get involved in the courts affairs or otherwise provoke them. Lea basically went about teaching Molly how to inspire fear without actually violating the laws themselves, by doing precisely what the Sidhe have done all along.
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Sorry Jonas, but you are applying a "rule" to all of the Sidhe that doesn't apply.
Only the Queens cannot kill without a connection to the courts. That's why they have a WK.
The rest of the Sidhe can kill as they like. Look at the Fetches or the Redcap. But the real question is if they use magic (not just glamour on themselves) to kill with, are they tainted. We don't have any examples of it yet, so we really don't know.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: Rasins on July 07, 2017, 06:32:27 PM ---Sorry Jonas, but you are applying a "rule" to all of the Sidhe that doesn't apply.
Only the Queens cannot kill without a connection to the courts. That's why they have a WK.
The rest of the Sidhe can kill as they like. Look at the Fetches or the Redcap. But the real question is if they use magic (not just glamour on themselves) to kill with, are they tainted. We don't have any examples of it yet, so we really don't know.
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The way I've always seen it, the Laws of Magic apply to mortals only, going both ways. I mean, Leah turns everyone into dogs without a problem and she's throwing around deadly magic without a care in the world in Changes.
It's got to do with free will and one's nature. A human's nature is changeable -- a fae's isn't. They're beholden entirely to their nature, so if they use magic to kill, then it's already in their nature to do so.
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