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Quantus:
This is the only one that comes to mind for me, and I'd sorta think that her being the instigating motivation for a major historical disaster/slaughter would make her more significant than just "she was mortal"?


--- Quote ---2010 Mysterious Galaxy Q&A
Do you have it planned out who Harry's grandmother is? @6:05
Yes... Well she's not alive any more.
Was she significant?
Well, she was a mortal.  That was about it.
--- End quote ---

Serack:

--- Quote from: Starshine on February 23, 2012, 10:18:12 AM ---ARE WE EVER GOING TO MEET LEFAY'S MOTHER?

 As in Ebenezar's wife?  Well, not unless we go back and do the French and Indian War thing probably.

ARE WE GOING TO FIND OUT WHO SHE IS?

She was a mortal.  She died somewhere around 1810 I think.  I've got it all written down somewhere.
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Mr. Death:
Damn. I could have sworn there was something more recent -- either a public appearance or an AMA -- where he said someone tried going after her to get to him, and one of the events he mentions in Blood Rites was him getting revenge.

Going by the timeline, it'd have to be New Madrid, since it's in 1812.

Sadly, the search function on the forums sucks and I haven't been able to find the reference :(

Rasins:

--- Quote from: Quantus on June 28, 2017, 09:06:08 PM ---OK, Ive seen this theory come up from lots of different folks, and I have to say I hate the argument to the very core.  A Boast about a vague future goal Abstract Declaration Victory does NOT allow you to claim credit!

It's like if the US President were to say "Im Going to Defeat North Korea" and then a few days later china Bombed it off the map, and then suddenly the White Houses Supporters start trying to claim the credit.  Except in this example China would exist and have originally been formed specifically to avoid US involvement.

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Well, there are a couple of possibilities here.

I'm not necessarily suggesting that Langtry was planning on what Harry did.

However, Vadderung knew what was going on, and so the knowledge was available.  It's entirely possible that Langtry had intended on doing the same thing that Harry ended up doing, but Harry beat him to it.  OR Langtry pushed Harry in that direction while they were in the Worry Room.

Another possibility is that Langtry planned on using the Wardens, who at that time were not sick, in an assault on Chichen Itza, or elsewhere and attempt to wipe them out.  You have to remember that until this point, Langtry had been waging a defensive war, for the most part.

My point was that Harry has a talent for turning an enemy's own weapon against said enemy.  No reason that talent can't be used against the outsiders at the Outer Gates.

dspringer1:
Why is everybody obsessing over whether Eb had permission in Changes when he went to town against the Reds?   The fact that Eb was the blackstaff is ONLY relevant to the extent that he used death magic to kill those human guards.  But if Eb had limited himself to targeting Red court vampires or disabling humans, there is no issue.   

The White Council is not like the CIA or FBI.  It is not an agency with a centralized command structure and wizards do not routinely act on orders.   It is much more like a fraternity which gives its members broad freedom of action within very rigid boundaries set by the laws of magic, the rules of the White Council and the treaty obligations like the Unseelee accords.  Harry has gone out and killed loads of supernatural bad guys without specific white council permission - or the expectation that this permission was even expected.    The organizational culture of the WC was set in medieval times and probably resembles more an guild of master craftsmen or perhaps a conclave of nobility than a modern corporation, army or government organization.  It is a group of independent and powerful peers, not a strongly hierarchical organization. 

Since the White Council is at war with the Red, any wizard is pretty much free to attack the Red Court whenever and wherever they wish -- provided they do not otherwise break the laws, accords or other white council rules.   They White Council would "prefer" you coordinate your actions with their wardens as that makes the WC as a whole more effective.   The wardens are often given orders like soldiers, but I suspect even wardens are not expected to "only" attack the red court under SC orders.   Eb is not a warden, so even that restriction does not apply. 

My personal opinion is that the WC restrictions on the Blackstaff are more strategic than tactical.  The WC may point the BS at specific problems.   The WC may censure the BS if the BS goes to far or abuses the position.  I imagine the BS position could be revoked if abused, but I doubt that has ever happened.   I imagine that only the most trusted of wizards would be allowed to take that position.   

That said, I do think Eb might be the most powerful Blackstaff since the original Merlin (who is suspect was the first).  Blackstaff and Senior Council member -- that is a very powerful combination. 

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