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Quantus:

--- Quote from: Rasins on June 28, 2017, 08:07:18 PM ---I disagree.  Is it the hammer and saw that build a house, or the Carpenter. 

Magic can reshape reality, just like a hammer and a saw can reshape a piece of wood.  But won't without the skill and will of a carpenter.

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Huh?  All Im saying is that the statement of "Magic can reshape reality so Rules or Limits never actually apply to Harry" is a logical fallacy.  It's akin to the famous statement "Give me a big enough Level and I'll move the world" because No, you wont, even if you managed to find a lever (and a fulcrum) of size and material that would make it physically possible.  Or to saying that Because Physics are a Thing, Our Hero can catch Bullets and crush Diamonds with their bare hands.  No.  The Quantitative side still matters. 

Rasins:
Oh ... sorry.  I didn't mean to imply that the rules don't apply to Harry, just that Magic users CAN reshape reality.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Rasins on June 29, 2017, 02:03:00 PM ---Oh ... sorry.  I didn't mean to imply that the rules don't apply to Harry, just that Magic users CAN reshape reality.

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Can they really?  Or is it mostly illusion that they are shaping?  This may be a leap from my sleep deprived mind, but I think this is why mind magic is mostly forbidden under the Laws of Magic..  The mind is altered so the the perception of the world is altered, but that isn't reality.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Mira on June 30, 2017, 05:58:23 AM ---Can they really?  Or is it mostly illusion that they are shaping?  This may be a leap from my sleep deprived mind, but I think this is why mind magic is mostly forbidden under the Laws of Magic..  The mind is altered so the the perception of the world is altered, but that isn't reality.

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No, it's actual physical reality that gets warped, independent of any given perception.  To your point though, in a pure NN demesne like what that ghost in GP or powerful NN creatures seem to have, I expect the line to get far more blurry, though.

LordDresden2:

--- Quote from: Quantus on June 30, 2017, 02:22:48 PM ---No, it's actual physical reality that gets warped, independent of any given perception.  To your point though, in a pure NN demesne like what that ghost in GP or powerful NN creatures seem to have, I expect the line to get far more blurry, though.

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Actually, I've wondered if 'rewrite reality' is as broad as we've sometimes assumed.  That is, I'm not sure that magic can be used to rewrite reality into anything the mage wants, I suspect there may be rules and limits as to what changes can be made, even by the major players.

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