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Are the Mothers immune to iron?
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: Drikonn on June 14, 2017, 10:00:27 AM ---The topic of Mother Winter's cleaver got me thinking about something that always bugged me. Mother Winter has iron teeth and they have a lot of knives made of iron in their cottage. Previously it was shown to be incredibly irresponsible to have any iron in Faerie at all, let alone having it be part of a fae's anatomy. Im curious if they're so absurdly powerful that the Bane doesn't have any effect on them, because that would lead to some very scary implications.
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Harry specifically calls her out as being immune to iron when Sharkface messes with his head in CD (and on that note, I'm not 100% sure that the lying rule applies to them either).
Con:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on August 22, 2017, 08:27:48 AM ---Harry specifically calls her out as being immune to iron when Sharkface messes with his head in CD (and on that note, I'm not 100% sure that the lying rule applies to them either).
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The Lying rule applies, but it's a bit redundant as the Mothers are required by cosmic law to speak as vaguely as possible with multiple meanings, just look at Mother Summer's conversation with Harry on the Wall to the Gates.
Mother Summer is talking about Maeve, Mab, and Harry's ability to make their own decisions despite their mantle's influence at the same time. As well as giving hints as to the fact that Mab is more human in caring for her daughter than she let's on.
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: Con on August 22, 2017, 10:47:43 AM ---The Lying rule applies, but it's a bit redundant as the Mothers are required by cosmic law to speak as vaguely as possible with multiple meanings, just look at Mother Summer's conversation with Harry on the Wall to the Gates.
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--- Quote from: Cold Days Chapter 32 ---Mother Summer somehow managed to inject her voice with profound skepticism. “I’m sure he’s overjoyed to owe loyalty to you,” she said.
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Either the rule isn't absolute for the Mothers or there's a sarcasm clause in it (or maybe it's just an error).
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Con on August 22, 2017, 10:47:43 AM ---The Lying rule applies, but it's a bit redundant as the Mothers are required by cosmic law to speak as vaguely as possible with multiple meanings, just look at Mother Summer's conversation with Harry on the Wall to the Gates.
Mother Summer is talking about Maeve, Mab, and Harry's ability to make their own decisions despite their mantle's influence at the same time. As well as giving hints as to the fact that Mab is more human in caring for her daughter than she let's on.
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||The Lying Rule Theory||
I have a theory, humor me for a minute. What if the Mother's are not Bound by the Lying Rule persay, rather they are bound by the same Root Cause of the No Lying Mandate, which is a Law against infringing on Mortal Free Will, and is the same root cause of the No Killing Un-Affiliated Mortals Law and their whole Bargains/Letter-of-the-Law obsession. What if they are limited in how they are allowed to interact with and/or restrict Mortal Free Will in the same way Angel's are. But lacking the knowledge and perception of an Angel, the average fae gets a Letter of the Law mandate (Never Ly), whereas the Mothers are held to the more direct/real/cosmic restriction of actual Free Will Interference, which they can deal with because they can actually percieve the Free Will driven branching multiverse. Like how they werent allowed to mention the Unicorn until asked about it, or conversely how they can have a conversation while still knowing everything the other knows, and possibly even being fragments of the same Entity. Thoughts?
Rasins:
I would suggest that the mothers are NOT limited to not being able to lie.
Then again, why would they lie? I'd bet they don't get many visitors in the first place, and really don't have much opportunity. But there really isn't any reason to lie at that point.
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