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Wanderer:
Let's say I may be interested in playing a sorcerer or wizard character that in addition to Evocation and Thaumaturgy, has access to multiple types of Sponsored Magic. Interesting options that seem thematically appropriate might be a combination of Seelie Magic and Soulfire (say a Seelie changeling sorcerer that did a favor to an Archangel), or of Unseelie Magic and Hellfire (say an Unseelie Knight wizard that got a Denarian shadow). I do not take Kemmlerian Necromancy into serious account as an option simply because I find necromancy of little interest, except perhaps as it concerns its cursing and destructive applications, but it might easily be an option for others. Would this be a wasteful or worthwhile use of refresh points? How is a character going to deal with having multiple sponsors?

Sanctaphrax:
Refresh-wise, it's really expensive. Even at Submerged, one Sponsor will max out a Wizard's Refresh budget. And while I wouldn't call it wasteful to have multiple Sponsors, there is an issue of diminishing returns. If you're concerned with Refresh efficiency, that might be a problem.

The roleplaying implications really depend on who the Sponsors are. In general, though, the biggest issue is conflicting demands. If Mab wants you to do X, and your Denarian shadow wants you to do Y, you'll have problems. Problems similar to the ones Harry has in the novels, actually.

Wanderer:

--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on May 06, 2017, 05:46:50 PM ---Refresh-wise, it's really expensive. Even at Submerged, one Sponsor will max out a Wizard's Refresh budget. And while I wouldn't call it wasteful to have multiple Sponsors, there is an issue of diminishing returns. If you're concerned with Refresh efficiency, that might be a problem.

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Well, I have already planned extending the canon power level scale all the way to 20-21 refresh for PC, also picking ideas for this houserule from this very board (cfr. the New Power Levels thread in the Resource Collection, which I'm thankful for as inspiration). So the refresh cost is not a real problem for me, unless the enterprise looks really wasteful. I'm already aware this kind of character concept would need at least about 15-18 refresh to be developed adequately, from my first character-creation attempts.


--- Quote ---The roleplaying implications really depend on who the Sponsors are. In general, though, the biggest issue is conflicting demands. If Mab wants you to do X, and your Denarian shadow wants you to do Y, you'll have problems. Problems similar to the ones Harry has in the novels, actually.

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Yeah. Since I read in OW and PP Harry came very close to being an Unseelie Knight Wizard with a Denarian shadow, and apparently managed it to pull it off with little more trouble than his usual 'interesting times all the time' lifestyle, I assumed it would be sometimes troublesome but doable and probably worthwhile. That's what actually inspired me to try this kind of concept in the first place (I can't just decide if the Seelie-Soulfire option or the Unseelie-Hellfire one is better/cooler, they equally appeal to me for different reasons), although I thought of swapping the Faerie Knight part of the concept with a Sidhe Changeling one, in order not to deal with the issue of the singularity of the Knight position (although I'm much in favor of having multiple Knights in a setting).

By the way, how much contact with a coin does a character need to develop a Denarian shadow? I thought of Half-Sidhe Sorcerer/Wizard as the High Concept for this kind of character, but I'm uncertain how to word stuff like having a Denarian shadow in it (or other Aspects). And what would conceivably justify getting Soulfire?

Sanctaphrax:

--- Quote from: Wanderer on May 06, 2017, 06:51:32 PM ---By the way, how much contact with a coin does a character need to develop a Denarian shadow? I thought of Half-Sidhe Sorcerer/Wizard as the High Concept for this kind of character, but I'm uncertain how to word stuff like having a Denarian shadow in it (or other Aspects). And what would conceivably justify getting Soulfire?
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I'm probably not the best person to ask. But I think just touching the coin is enough to get a shadow. And I think wizards get soulfire when angels decide, for whatever reason, that they should have it.

For the Aspect, the obvious approach is often appropriate. SHADOW OF <DENARIAN> is a perfectly respectable Aspect.

khadgar4606:
speaking of denarian shadows can you resurect or ascend lash again via some dresden class shenanigans

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