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If Hades shows up for Peace Talks in Chicago

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Avernite:

--- Quote from: Quantus on May 25, 2017, 02:40:43 PM ---You know, Now that I think about it, I dont think so.  He probably could act as the Tool to allow TWG destroy a fallen if that were the route to be taken, but I dont think he'd be capable on his own Power (even f her were willing to risk a possible Fall to try it).  If an Archangel could destroy a Fallen I would have expected Lucy to take that route rather than locking up only his worst 30 rivals in such a way that they arguably got /more/ powerful...

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Think of it like Lara Raith and Harry. Harry is a threat to Lara, but if she can consistently point him at her enemies, why would she kill him? Likewise, why would Lucifer kill his lieutenants when he can force them to be no threat to himself while still fighting against Luci's enemies?

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Avernite on May 25, 2017, 03:30:05 PM ---Think of it like Lara Raith and Harry. Harry is a threat to Lara, but if she can consistently point him at her enemies, why would she kill him? Likewise, why would Lucifer kill his lieutenants when he can force them to be no threat to himself while still fighting against Luci's enemies?

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Good point, I suppose we dont know that he /hasn't/ killed a fallen along the line that challenged him or something, just that he chose to use the coins for those particular ones. 

Rasins:

--- Quote from: kazimmoinuddin on May 18, 2017, 12:32:10 AM ---I totally see the coin collection ending up in the well, not only due to its epic image. The warden has soulfire. His pseudo nephlim spirit of intellect daughter likely has the knowledge of a shadow of the fallen. The knowledge, combined with soul fire, backed by the well has the best chance at permanently containing the coins. Want to bet Bonnie knows all the sigils and names for the nickel heads?

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What's more, want to bet she also knows how to summon each one?

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Rasins on May 31, 2017, 05:27:47 PM ---What's more, want to bet she also knows how to summon each one?

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Perhaps it's better to say that somewhere in there she likely knows a bunch of summoning rituals and likely one of the would work on the coins.  But if she's still at the stage of "Guess what? Pancakes are /inanimate/!"  then I dont know that she'll yet have built too much context around that odd set of 30 special coins.  Or the actual practice of Magic, for that matter.   

Rasins:

--- Quote from: Quantus on May 31, 2017, 05:33:17 PM ---Perhaps it's better to say that somewhere in there she likely knows a bunch of summoning rituals and likely one of the would work on the coins.  But if she's still at the stage of "Guess what? Pancakes are /inanimate/!"  then I dont know that she'll yet have built too much context around that odd set of 30 special coins.  Or the actual practice of Magic, for that matter.

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Right.  But I still think the knowledge is there.  Harry will just have to help her attain the perspective to be able to retrieve the right steps.

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