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Mab, and Titania in love with another Starborn?

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groinkick:
Mab and Titania haven't spoke in like 1000 years, and it was over a man whom Jim said didn't survive.  We also know that when things got bad in the wizard world both Queen's died resulting in the rise of Mab, and Titania.  I'm wondering if they were in love with a Starborn, possibly even Merlin, and that person brought about the end of the previous Queen's somehow either through action, or inaction.

This could explain Titania's and Mab's feelings towards Harry, a Starborn as they had trusted, and had feelings for the previous one.  Jim described Titania being very nervous of Harry, and Mab keeping her enemies close.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: groinkick on April 12, 2017, 08:14:15 PM ---Mab and Titania haven't spoke in like 1000 years, and it was over a man whom Jim said didn't survive.  We also know that when things got bad in the wizard world both Queen's died resulting in the rise of Mab, and Titania.  I'm wondering if they were in love with a Starborn, possibly even Merlin, and that person brought about the end of the previous Queen's somehow either through action, or inaction.

This could explain Titania's and Mab's feelings towards Harry, a Starborn as they had trusted, and had feelings for the previous one.  Jim described Titania being very nervous of Harry, and Mab keeping her enemies close.

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The Man in question was specifically Oberon, per that WOJ.  Though given the theme of multiple identities, I supposed Oberon could have also been the original Merlin.  Though the WOJ's paint Oberon as far more coldly Dead than how they decribe Merlin. 

So I dont know that Oberon would fit as Merlin, but I do strongly suspect that the original Merlin was indeed a Starborn, and also the Winter Knight, which is in turn why he was entrusted with The Blackstaff by Mother Winter.  And odds are he was a central player in all the Big-Deal shenanigans that were going down around that time. 

LordDresden2:

--- Quote from: Quantus on April 12, 2017, 08:20:31 PM ---The Man in question was specifically Oberon, per that WOJ.  Though given the theme of multiple identities, I supposed Oberon could have also been the original Merlin.  Though the WOJ's paint Oberon as far more coldly Dead than how they decribe Merlin. 

So I dont know that Oberon would fit as Merlin, but I do strongly suspect that the original Merlin was indeed a Starborn, and also the Winter Knight, which is in turn why he was entrusted with The Blackstaff by Mother Winter.  And odds are he was a central player in all the Big-Deal shenanigans that were going down around that time.

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Has it actually been officially confirmed that the Blackstaff is Mother Winter's walking stick?

groinkick:

--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on June 13, 2017, 02:55:26 AM ---Has it actually been officially confirmed that the Blackstaff is Mother Winter's walking stick?

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Yeah so much so that Jim said so at one point.  So many people suspected it I don't think he felt a need to deny it. 

isoycrazy:
Perhaps the last Star Born who killed a few Queens was Merlin, but I suspect if both Mab and Titania loved a mortal, it was probably Tam Lin.  Who then left the Knight service to be with some mortal woman.

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