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Cider Spires is set in Alera? Reposting this topic

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Quantus:

--- Quote from: RobReece on June 10, 2017, 09:00:20 PM ---The problem with that would be the references to the Furies  of Olympus, that's made.

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Meh, that reference is already being interpreted as either (or both) a reference to Alera as it is a reference of the classic Furies of actual Olympian myth.  With those possibilities already established, that passage shouldn't stand in the way of much. 

Tritium:
I'm 2/3rds the way through TAW, and I am just convinced that the Builders are earthcrafters, and the surface creatures are Vord of some sort.  It makes sense from an Alaran perspective - They cannot defeat the Carnim Vord force, but they can build massive structures - archologies - that the Vord would find hard to penetrate and Alarans easy to defend.

That and before he started writing TAW, WoJ was that future Alera would be much more steam-punky.

He also said he probably wouldn't revisit Alera anytime soon.  So this is just crack fan theory.

lt_murgen:
And I fall into the "human colony spacecraft" camp.

Food grown in vats. 
Habble = habitation bubbles- square living areas inside a round bubble, one with a transluscent dome.
Ventilation, water, and waste tunnels and pipes. 
The black horse inn had the 'horse' part referred to as a mythological animal. 

 I think that colonists from Earth landed there, only to find the combination of etheric energy and atmosphere caused rapid degradation of steel and iron.  So they buried the colony ships on the tops of mountains and clad all the metal in some kind of ceramic composite, creating 'spire-stone'.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: lt_murgen on July 17, 2017, 03:52:05 PM ---And I fall into the "human colony spacecraft" camp.

Food grown in vats. 
Habble = habitation bubbles- square living areas inside a round bubble, one with a transluscent dome.
Ventilation, water, and waste tunnels and pipes. 
The black horse inn had the 'horse' part referred to as a mythological animal. 

 I think that colonists from Earth landed there, only to find the combination of etheric energy and atmosphere caused rapid degradation of steel and iron.  So they buried the colony ships on the tops of mountains and clad all the metal in some kind of ceramic composite, creating 'spire-stone'.

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Fwiw, the spires vary widely in shape and design.  I want to say that the WOJ mentioned that some were more integrated into the landscape than others (with Albion being on the less-landscape fitting end of the spectrum).  That doesnt negate the theory of spacecraft at all, though it might offer clues to the circumstances (like an emergency colony evacuation as opposed to an organized Fleet.*

Lets chase it though, if they are colony ships and the builders were the human colonists of that time, what are the "Archangels" which are associated by theology and had been spotted recently as of the opening to CAW.

*Forgive me if we've already covered this, its been a while since i looked at this thread. 

lt_murgen:

--- Quote from: Quantus on July 17, 2017, 05:31:27 PM ---Lets chase it though, if they are colony ships and the builders were the human colonists of that time, what are the "Archangels" which are associated by theology and had been spotted recently as of the opening to CAW.
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My first thought was that archangels were based off the stories of the first etherealists.  After all, if there are crystals that make etheric energy into anti-gravity, then a skilled etherealist could conveivably fly on their own.
But characters do not seem to speak of the Builders with the same reverence they do of "Lord God Almighty" (and archangels by association). So that seems to me to discount that idea. 

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