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Reference: Fae reproduction, life cycle and social structure [Cold Case Spoiler]
Serack:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on November 03, 2016, 12:12:03 AM ---As for the Miskani, we still don't know that they breed together.
* The Miksani might sire/birth children with mortals and take them back to their tribe.
* The Miksani might coexist within a mortal tribe they look like; there might have been mortal spouses present at the funeral.
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The narrative only acknowledged the two "adolescent" Miksani who had already been seen in cormorant form, the cormorant's in the rafters, and the spouse of the deceased (who could have been mortal).
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Serack on November 03, 2016, 01:13:19 AM ---The narrative only acknowledged the two "adolescent" Miksani who had already been seen in cormorant form, the cormorant's in the rafters, and the spouse of the deceased (who could have been mortal).
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I must have gotten confused about the end scene when the Miksani all fly down and return to human form. I thought there were more in the room.
Cruness:
--- Quote from: Serack on November 02, 2016, 05:36:41 PM ---When I first read Cold Case, I made the following note
Now that the story is released, it's time for me to get to business with the actual theorizing... (more to come)
Data points: These are bits of information about various fae and their natures with respect to their reproduction, life cycle, and social structure
* Eldest:Examples:
* Eldest Gruff
* Cat Sith
* Eldest Fetch
* (theoretically) Lea
* Mother Summer quote from Cold Days about relationship between Fae and Mortals
* Changelings don't necessarily have to be first generation. It could be a from a Fae Grandparent or maybe even farther back
* Wealth of conflicting WoJ that Mab used to be a human, all Fae have some mortal nature, and conversely that she and all sidhe had origins like Toot Toot
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* List of known Changelings and their likely progenitors
* Ace: Redcap
* Meryl: Troll
* Lilly: Nymph?
* Fix: Gnome?
* Sarissa/Maeve: Mab
* Molly?: ?? (see Twitter WoJ above)
* Bestiary: This list will have three sections. Those that seem impossible to have mated and thus procreated with/from humans (Nonstandard). Fuzzy middle
* Standard Changelings: Those that seem impossible to have mated and thus procreated with/from humans. It's possible some of these use glamor to get it on...
* Sidhe
* Mab
* Redcap
* Leananshidhe
* Gnomes
* Jenny Greenteeth
* Gruffs
* Trolls
* Ogre
* Fetches?
* Dryads
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* Nonstandard: Those that seem impossible to have mated and thus procreated with/from humans. It's possible some of these were shape shifted when encountered in the books, and can shift to a more Sidhe like form like Redcap's falcon buddies, or the Miksani
* Malks
* Otters
* Giant Bees
* Dew-Drop Fairies
* Raw-Head
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* Fuzzy Middle: Mostly quadrupeds that also have anthropomorphic tendencies.
* Centaurs
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* The example of the Miksani: Things of note for this reference are:
* The Miksani are a "Hidden Peoples of the Winter Court."
* Community appears to reside wholly upon the Mortal Plane.
* Apparent family/tribal structure with members at various points in a life cycle. "Elders," "Children," apparent "adolescents"
* Shape Shifters (cormorant)
* Apparent Non European mythology background
* Pay "Tribute" in the form of children to man the armies at the Outer Gates
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* Serack's Origins of the Sidhe reference topic
The linked topic is my attempt to build a reference topic that does some very heavy lifting when it comes to collecting ideas from all kinds of mythological sources other than just the Dresden Files.
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In Summer Knight, Meryl refers to Lilly as being Half-Nixie.
"I'll just tell the cops that a half-nixie, professional nude model, went missing in Fairieland."
Wizardofnelson:
Not having read cold case yet I'm at a disadvantage in info here. But I have a problem with the idea sidhe cannot mate and produce... What was the point of the sidhe wars or how did those they where based from manage then?(I.e. The Greeks)
I think the caveat on them doing so is in their nature, they don't have or use the primary 'elements' that make procreation possible above physical function. Harry and a spirit procreate via love connection not physical act. So if such acts are foreign to them...?
Not sure how the tributes work, but that's them sacrificing themselves yea? The old school worship/ giving of yourself/ sacrifice. It was that element that made Bonnie, it's that element the tributes actually contribute?
Zaphodess:
--- Quote from: Quantus on November 02, 2016, 06:59:49 PM ---I honestly dont think the tribute actually was all that critical in and of itself.
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Or maybe it was. Fae are basically immortal, so 6 warriors might be the fighting equivalent of 600 years. Assuming that some die young while others last several hundred years or millennia.
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