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seradhe:

--- Quote from: Shecky on October 29, 2007, 03:22:00 AM ---Interesting. The idea of the author doing a self-portrait (be it consciously or unconsciously) or a picture of himself as he'd LIKE to be is an old one; I'd just never heard a name given to this. Anyone have any idea where the term came from? Doesn't seem immediately evident.

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I never heard of it myself until I came across this test. A short sacrifice to the wiki gods later, I had this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_sue

While I agree with a good portion of the definition (a characters merits greatly outweighing their flaws, etc..). I personally believe there's a little bit of the author in every main character they write.

meg_evonne:
So Mary Sue came from Star Trek (in a way).... that's cool!  Thanks for the link to the explaination. 

Hrankta:

--- Quote from: Shecky on October 27, 2007, 01:42:22 PM ---What the ham sandwich is a Mary Sue?

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Also, a "Mary Sue", or if a male, a "Gary Stu", is a character with no real character flaws.  The overly good, invincible hero.  Think Drizzt, Aragorn, Will Turner, Wesley Crusher, etc.

A Mary Sue / Gary Stu can also be a character who exhibits a lot of common cliches, such as the "Angsty Sue" (Rand Al'Thorne), "Rebel Sue" (Snake Pliskin), "Anti-Sue" (villains with no redeemable qualities), "Outcast-Sue" (Wulfgar), or "Self-Sue", as someone said above, when someone basically inserts themselves.

KevinEvans:
I did the test for a story I sold,
came out a 12. But a lot of the questions are genre related, as an example I consciously wrote the character as a shadow of my self, and not enough of the questions keyed in on the genre, to reflect the bias. As to good or bad I have always heard that you should write what you know, good suspension of disbelief comes from a believable character that extends it's existence in to an interesting situation.
In my case the plot revolves around a mildly disabled vet, and his reaction to a huge life changing event. Literally (pun intended) his whole world changes when his town is shifted 367 years into the past and onto a different continent.
Stories need to be interesting, and I think the test is trying to sort out the protagontist that always has too easy a time with it's problems.

If you are interested about half the story is available for free here, http://www.grantvillegazette.com/articles/Sailing_Upwind and if you want it all, PM me, and I will send it to you.

Regards,
Kevin

Shecky:

--- Quote from: KevinEvans on November 11, 2007, 07:21:11 AM ---I did the test for a story I sold,
came out a 12. But a lot of the questions are genre related, as an example I consciously wrote the character as a shadow of my self, and not enough of the questions keyed in on the genre, to reflect the bias. As to good or bad I have always heard that you should write what you know, good suspension of disbelief comes from a believable character that extends it's existence in to an interesting situation.
In my case the plot revolves around a mildly disabled vet, and his reaction to a huge life changing event. Literally (pun intended) his whole world changes when his town is shifted 367 years into the past and onto a different continent.
Stories need to be interesting, and I think the test is trying to sort out the protagontist that always has too easy a time with it's problems.

If you are interested about half the story is available for free here, http://www.grantvillegazette.com/articles/Sailing_Upwind and if you want it all, PM me, and I will send it to you.

Regards,
Kevin

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You know, I was just about to point out that this premise sounded exactly like that of 1632. Imagine my consternation when I do a quick re-read of your post to find out that that IS the story you're working on LOL!

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