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Serack:

--- Quote from: Dashkull on April 14, 2016, 02:50:00 AM ---Interesting thought I just had: If part of DR exists in the never never, would Harry's intellectus of the place carry over? Because that kind of knowledge about the never never, wherever it is, could be a really neat thing to experiment with.

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Ohhhhh.  Very interesting indeed.

Lawgiver:

--- Quote from: Dashkull on April 14, 2016, 02:50:00 AM ---Interesting thought I just had: If part of DR exists in the never never, would Harry's intellectus of the place carry over? Because that kind of knowledge about the never never, wherever it is, could be a really neat thing to experiment with.

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Hmm... interesting... though I've had the impression (for no particular reason I can cite) that when Harry is "below the island" where the "cells" are located that he's more in a "pocket dimension" rather than some general "place" in the NN - sort like Agatha Hagglethorn's personal demesne.

It would make sense to have very limited access - if DR doesn't let you in you don't get there.  It prevents "breakout" attempts because there's no way to "tunnel" in from elsewhere, etc.

Dashkull:

--- Quote from: Lawgiver on April 14, 2016, 05:22:09 PM ---Hmm... interesting... though I've had the impression (for no particular reason I can cite) that when Harry is "below the island" where the "cells" are located that he's more in a "pocket dimension" rather than some general "place" in the NN - sort like Agatha Hagglethorn's personal demesne.

It would make sense to have very limited access - if DR doesn't let you in you don't get there.  It prevents "breakout" attempts because there's no way to "tunnel" in from elsewhere, etc.

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But even her pocket dimension was technically a part of the never never.

But the main thing I was thinking was that he could gain all kinds of knowledge of ways and things. We know there are ways onto the island, the traitor and one other shadowy person took on to the island in TC. If he can figure out the way to some of the places DR touches that would be really useful to him.

But that is just a start. If he were able to get some creatures to the DR part of the never never, he could learn a massive amount of information about them, potentially. Or maybe some information on the nature of the never never itself. The spirit realm is a tricksy place and he would have an even bigger advantage with his intellectus there than he gets here. And itd be just plain fun :).

Im inclined to think that it is not partially in the never never, if for no other reason than it would be just one more way into the prison. Prisons with a lot of entrances and exits arent as secure.

kazimmoinuddin:
Seeing as the island was a huge magical construction, would it not make sense for the creator to have built the never never side as well? There is potential places that reflect the well, like the underworld specificly tarturus. An aspect of the well could be formed to link and bind it, to empower and secure. I can imagine something like the lighthouse or the cottage of the island, intruding onto those reflections.
Look at what a body jumping necromancer and a spirit of intellect was able to build for never never defenses. If the well is so epic, imagine that magic used to construct their one bit of e never never.

Dashkull:

--- Quote from: kazimmoinuddin on April 15, 2016, 09:35:45 PM ---Seeing as the island was a huge magical construction, would it not make sense for the creator to have built the never never side as well? There is potential places that reflect the well, like the underworld specificly tarturus. An aspect of the well could be formed to link and bind it, to empower and secure. I can imagine something like the lighthouse or the cottage of the island, intruding onto those reflections.
Look at what a body jumping necromancer and a spirit of intellect was able to build for never never defenses. If the well is so epic, imagine that magic used to construct their one bit of e never never.

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I think it is a chicken and egg kind of thing.

Possibility A: You build the place, and it will become linked to parts of the never never that are sympathetic to it's nature. Then, you go there and build up the defenses to suit your liking. B: You figure out a way to link what you are building to a specific point in the never never and build on both sides at the same time. C: Use the act of creating the physical place to forge out a pocket of the never never that will be linked to it, and build your defenses in the pocket after or during physical construction.

I dont think it really matters which one is correct.

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