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Current DR wardens
Serack:
--- Quote from: Lawgiver on April 12, 2016, 05:57:20 PM ---My only question about the whole thing is... why would the WC separate itself from DR? Going from a single Warden, with all the power/potential DR represents, to multiple wardens of far lesser potential (though greater range of influence/activity) seems like a very important step. I can hardly image what exigencies prompted them to it.
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I see the reason as two fold.
* The DR Warden mantle is so Oh S***! powerful and dangerous that the leadership on the council probably prefers to see it left vacant unless there is some dire need otherwise. Merlin seemed to have gone rather ape when he took it up after all.
* Judging by what some more informed people said to Harry before he got the full job description, it's not likely a fully informed and sane person would take up the position voluntarily.
The Gatekeeper's comments about "a bit of questionable attention from the Fates," as well as some of Jim's comments about the Blackstaff being chosen based off of who is willing to put up with the horrible ethical nightmares it comes with imply to me that filling these enigmatic Capitalized White Council positions is problematic.
madness:
--- Quote from: Serack on April 12, 2016, 07:59:55 PM ---I see the reason as two fold.
* The DR Warden mantle is so Oh S***! powerful and dangerous that the leadership on the council probably prefers to see it left vacant unless there is some dire need otherwise. Merlin seemed to have gone rather ape when he took it up after all.
* Judging by what some more informed people said to Harry before he got the full job description, it's not likely a fully informed and sane person would take up the position voluntarily.
The Gatekeeper's comments about "a bit of questionable attention from the Fates," as well as some of Jim's comments about the Blackstaff being chosen based off of who is willing to put up with the horrible ethical nightmares it comes with imply to me that filling these enigmatic Capitalized White Council positions is problematic.
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I always got the feeling that the White Council sort of gets the powerful and secret wizard positions (Gatekeeper, Blackstaff, Warden of the Well) chosen for them for multiple reasons.
1) they require unique and uniquely powerful wizards.
2) the White Council hides their existence from its own members so most prospects are those who either stumble upon the positions or seek them out against the will of the White Council.
3) greater powers tend to get involved (the Fates, whoever maneuvered Harry to the island, etc.)
4) the types of wizards crazy enough to willingly take on these roles are not likely to be yes men or strictly uphold White Council doctrine.
If I had to guess I would say that probably nearly as many people had strokes when Eb took up the Blackstaff as did when Harry took up the mantle of the Warden of the Well.
kazimmoinuddin:
It might be easier to take down known monsters for the island. We know it has contained 6 skinwalkers, do using the knowledge of how to deal with, make it easier to capture others. The presence of others already, might even ease the summoning and binding of more.
Beldon:
--- Quote from: madness on April 13, 2016, 12:37:43 AM ---I always got the feeling that the White Council sort of gets the powerful and secret wizard positions (Gatekeeper, Blackstaff, Warden of the Well) chosen for them for multiple reasons.
1) they require unique and uniquely powerful wizards.
2) the White Council hides their existence from its own members so most prospects are those who either stumble upon the positions or seek them out against the will of the White Council.
3) greater powers tend to get involved (the Fates, whoever maneuvered Harry to the island, etc.)
4) the types of wizards crazy enough to willingly take on these roles are not likely to be yes men or strictly uphold White Council doctrine.
If I had to guess I would say that probably nearly as many people had strokes when Eb took up the Blackstaff as did when Harry took up the mantle of the Warden of the Well.
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Side note: is the WC fully aware of what Harry did or still just rashid eb and listens to wind?
I like the idea that they just blunder into these positions or are forced to actively seek them.
madness:
--- Quote from: Beldon on April 13, 2016, 12:58:32 AM ---Side note: is the WC fully aware of what Harry did or still just rashid be and listens to wind?
I like the idea that they just blunder into these positions or are forced to actively seek them.
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The Senior Council is aware that Harry claimed the island since three of them were there during the battle during Turn Coat. It was clear that Ancient Mai did not know about the Well or Harry being the Warden (she just thought that Harry claimed some dark island), Listen's to Wind never indicates one way or another if he knows the island's true purpose and Eb's journal entry makes its clear that both Eb and Rashid know the true purpose of the island and implies that Langtry knows as well.
Vadderung says that the Grey Council members who showed up at Chichen Itza were aware of the island's purpose and that they knew that Harry was the Warden of the Well.
Knowledge of the island's true purpose seems to take 'need to know' to an entirely different level. :)
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