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cornyphil:

--- Quote from: kazimmoinuddin on December 10, 2015, 09:33:18 PM ---Due to ships able to rise and fall so much, canon would difficult to aim. If they develop gun turrets able to be adjusted, those could be set up.

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They might be slightly more difficult to aim... but I'm not sure if that difference is substantial enough to invalidate the idea.

From what little we have seen, the airships are closer to their namesake naval capital ships than dogfighting fighters.  They can vary altitudes but they aren't turning on a dime or rising at ridiculous speeds.  Ships (and their guns) appear to need a reasonably close proximity to their target which means that cannons might very well be an interesting 1-2 punch.  Use the ethereal cannons to force the opposing ship into a position and then put a half dozen 12lb cannon balls into it's side. 

The key value add of the ethereal cannons seems to be the sheer destructive power of them.  Normal cannons are basically just heavy balls of metal (though exploding ones do exist)... E-cannons appear to be more along the lines of high-explosive shells that cause massive damage on a penetrating hit.

knnn:

--- Quote from: cornyphil on December 12, 2015, 06:51:22 AM ---The key value add of the ethereal cannons seems to be the sheer destructive power of them.  Normal cannons are basically just heavy balls of metal (though exploding ones do exist)... E-cannons appear to be more along the lines of high-explosive shells that cause massive damage on a penetrating hit.

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But if normal cannons can shoot through the shroud then that is a significant advantage in itself, and you would expect a few of them on a warship, alongside all the e-cannons.

Second Aristh:

--- Quote from: knnn on December 22, 2015, 02:15:32 PM ---But if normal cannons can shoot through the shroud then that is a significant advantage in itself, and you would expect a few of them on a warship, alongside all the e-cannons.

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The cost of getting that much metal together compared to the amount of damage a metal cannonball can do may be a limiting factor.  It would seem like physical cannons would have the same drawbacks that Grimm described with using traditional firearms.

knnn:

--- Quote from: Second Aristh on December 22, 2015, 06:18:45 PM ---The cost of getting that much metal together compared to the amount of damage a metal cannonball can do may be a limiting factor.  It would seem like physical cannons would have the same drawbacks that Grimm described with using traditional firearms.

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And yet Grimm is in fact carrying around a pistol.  Seems to indicate he thinks it's worth it despite the prevalence of gauntlets.

Second Aristh:

--- Quote from: knnn on December 22, 2015, 06:44:02 PM ---And yet Grimm is in fact carrying around a pistol.  Seems to indicate he thinks it's worth it despite the prevalence of gauntlets.

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True, but he keeps pointing out the long lists of drawbacks.  He doesn't typically keep it on him anyway.  He keeps it in his cabin on the Predator when etherealists aren't in the mix. 

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