Other Jimness > Cinder Spires Spoilers
Like and like not (major spoilers)
2,176,847:
--- Quote from: Aminar on October 24, 2015, 04:19:59 PM ---But it is what a character with an understanding of narrative would say.
Too often our characters live in a world where nobody has any sense of story or genre awareness. It's fun to see characters acknowledge the conventions of storytelling versus our more postmodern trope refutation tastes.
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A more than fair point Aminar and one that may have simply sailed over my head at the time. I'm suddenly at a loss, trying to recall if that was the characters inner monologue or the author perspective. (I read it as Jim's but could be wrong)
I had to think long and hard to find something for the "not like" portion of this particular thread and that was the nit I picked. Maybe on my reread in the future I wont think twice about it and flow right along with the story. It just felt a little like the book version of breaking the fourth wall to me at the time.
Aminar:
--- Quote from: 2,176,847 on October 24, 2015, 09:14:42 PM ---A more than fair point Aminar and one that may have simply sailed over my head at the time. I'm suddenly at a loss, trying to recall if that was the characters inner monologue or the author perspective. (I read it as Jim's but could be wrong)
I had to think long and hard to find something for the "not like" portion of this particular thread and that was the nit I picked. Maybe on my reread in the future I wont think twice about it and flow right along with the story. It just felt a little like the book version of breaking the fourth wall to me at the time.
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The books are pretty tight Third Person. Everything is character thought or observation, even if it isn't dialogue.
It does border on the fourth wall. Tv Tropes lists it as Genre Savvy.
Dina:
--- Quote from: 2,176,847 on October 24, 2015, 09:14:42 PM ---A more than fair point Aminar and one that may have simply sailed over my head at the time. I'm suddenly at a loss, trying to recall if that was the characters inner monologue or the author perspective. (I read it as Jim's but could be wrong)
I had to think long and hard to find something for the "not like" portion of this particular thread and that was the nit I picked. Maybe on my reread in the future I wont think twice about it and flow right along with the story. It just felt a little like the book version of breaking the fourth wall to me at the time.
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One of those cases was when Bridget thought that a heroine will do such and such to try and save Folly. She decides that is not practical and that she is not a good fiction heroine. Then something happens and she does exactly that. I laughed so much (I think all the references where done in Bridget.'s mind I think that is because being a lonely teenager she loves to read/watch/whatever fiction works)
2,176,847:
--- Quote from: Dina on October 25, 2015, 04:25:03 AM ---One of those cases was when Bridget thought that a heroine will do such and such to try and save Folly. She decides that is not practical and that she is not a good fiction heroine. Then something happens and she does exactly that. I laughed so much (I think all the references where done in Bridget.'s mind I think that is because being a lonely teenager she loves to read/watch/whatever fiction works)
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Both you and Aminar make a good case and this is what I get for being nitpicky. ;D You are also right about the humor, Jim's humor is constant throughout. It lead to many evenings of reading late into the night and possible "brain fog".
KevinSig:
I pretty much liked everything, except a few things:
I really didn't like that Bridget's second kidnapping happened without a fuss. I'd like to have seen something of a fight. It just felt so very unsatisfying.
We know Etherealists progressively grow more mad as they work with the powers. However, in the context of the book, the characters seem to remain at a static level of madness.
I somewhat feel this gives the Etherealists a bit too much power & wouldn't have minded that grand displays of power would be followed by either a temporary increase in madness, or some other drawback.
I mean, I don't see anything from stopping Lady Cavendish from pointing at every one of her enemies & getting people to claw their eyes out, just like Oprah handed out cars.
Gaunlet's overheat, but what stops an Ethrealist from just going overboard? We really were never shown.
Those are my two major issues. One I hope sees some self correction as the series goes on, the other is just a minor quibble.
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