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Thoughts about "Iron Rot"
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--- Quote from: Sully on November 24, 2015, 08:05:38 PM ---It's not going to have a perfectly flat floor.
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Oh, ok. Umm, why not?
knnn:
Because nothing is perfectly flat even in our world -- there's always a small incline. It might not be detectable without instruments, but it will be there. Consider also that even if the original builders settled the spires perfectly upright, building tend to sinks and the earth moves. Unless there's some self-correcting mechanism, there's no way it would remain perfectly level.
Note also that all building tend to sway (in wind, minor earthquakes, etc.). Yes, spirestone is incredibly strong and a spire is relatively short and squat, but it's physically impossible for anything to be 100% rigid. It doesn't matter how tough it was built, something 2 miles high is going to be moving, possibly vibrating back and forth as the waves move up and down the spire.
Brightbane:
--- Quote from: knnn on November 25, 2015, 03:10:13 AM ---Because nothing is perfectly flat even in our world -- there's always a small incline. It might not be detectable without instruments, but it will be there. Consider also that even if the original builders settled the spires perfectly upright, building tend to sinks and the earth moves. Unless there's some self-correcting mechanism, there's no way it would remain perfectly level.
Note also that all building tend to sway (in wind, minor earthquakes, etc.). Yes, spirestone is incredibly strong and a spire is relatively short and squat, but it's physically impossible for anything to be 100% rigid. It doesn't matter how tough it was built, something 2 miles high is going to be moving, possibly vibrating back and forth as the waves move up and down the spire.
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It's also physically impossible for wooden ships to float through the air due to the powers of magic crystals, but I don't see you complaining about that....
kazimmoinuddin:
Could it be possible the spires absorbs the kinetic energy from vibration and use it to power some of its features?
knnn:
--- Quote from: Brightbane on November 25, 2015, 03:34:02 AM ---It's also physically impossible for wooden ships to float through the air due to the powers of magic crystals, but I don't see you complaining about that....
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I don't think I consider it a complaint as much as an observation, esp. since I don't believe this is contradicted by anything in the text.
As to your point, sure, Jim can invent any magic/physics rules he wants, but the general way these things go is that you introduce very few changes to the universe and then assume everything else is consistent. So yes, magic crystals, but gravity still works, electricity needs to be conducted, material still have finite tensile strength and the Right Hand Rule is in effect until we see explicitly otherwise.
To put it another way, there is a range of fantasy type works ranging from the very "soft" fantasy of Harry Potter where one doesn't look to carefully at inconsistencies to the "hard" ones of Alera and (as far as we have seen) The Cinder Spires where except for a few stated rule changes, everything can be derived logically. Infinitely hard spirestone would simply be adding yet another technical complication that at the moment seems unwarranted. That's not to say that a future revelation that spirestone is actually a sort of magical forcecfield that doesn't bend couldn't be in the works, just that it doesn't seems necessary.
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