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Fedd:

--- Quote from: Dina on January 03, 2016, 03:43:05 AM ---You know, I am very surprised by that criticism, which is repeated. I think the characters are much better than the Dresden Files ones (which I loved!). I can see how Grimm and Folly are archetypical, but the others feel like real people to me. They are, hands down, my favorite part of the book.

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You really feel that way? Outside of Grimm and Folly I honestly cant remember a single characters name. The girl who rebels against her mom has a few interesting thoughts/scenes and then behaves the exact same way in every scene afterwards. It was difficult to even tell the difference between the two female cadets at times. The only meaningful difference in their scenes was the Cat.

I feel JB is at his best driving action oriented characters. Not necessarily violent action, but when his books get bogged down in world building and pointless dialogue is when they are weakest. Codex Alera is a great example of this, book one is... not the best, but once he discovered how to constantly keep the characters in motion while still developing the world, the series improved dramatically.

I think Cinder spires can and most likely will improve. JB is a good writer and the series has enough interesting concepts to build upon. The first book just happened to be dreadfully boring in my opinion.

Dina:
Well, yes, I honestly believe that way. Bridget, the vattery girl, is probably my favorite character, because she reminds me, except I would never be so blatantly rude to a classmate. But I have trouble confirming she is my favorite character because I love them all. As Ananda said, Rowl is intentionally two dimensional, and he is a cat. I love cats, so that is it. Gwen is another great character for me, even when I hate her name (Gwendolyn Margaret Elizabeth) because Margaret Gwendolyn LeFay is Dresden's mom). She is completely different to Bridget for me. She is a badass girl and a little rich girl all at the same time. And she can do mechanics!! Her chapter when she plays the Kaylee is amazing and my favorite chapter of all what I've read by Jim Butcher. Benedict is sexy and fun and sad at the same time. It's probably the only one I would really like to have as a friend.
Grimm, of course, is Harry. And I love Harry, multidimensional or not.
Master Ferus is perfect. Folly is fun and nice. Cavendish is terrifying. Bayard, I love Bayard, even when I am afraid he can be a traitor. Kettle, Journeyman, Creedy are regular crew, yes, they could be Salgari characters. I found them funny too.

I understand the books may improve as workpieces but I don't believe I will like any book better than TAW because there is too much tragedy coming and I don't like tragedy. Besides, I don't know who will be the main characters.

Fedd:
I see your points Dina. Im gonna give it a re read and see if it grows on me, or perhaps I read it too quickly the first time through and missed out on the subtlety. Gwens name bugged me as well. Jim seems to like M- named characters lol.

Ferrus and Folly were both fun and entertaining.

Dina:
LOL, I am not saying everybody will feel the same. I just "connected" with that book in a strong way.

Fedd:

--- Quote from: Dina on January 04, 2016, 03:59:21 AM ---LOL, I am not saying everybody will feel the same. I just "connected" with that book in a strong way.

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Not saying you were  :) but I didnt connect with it at all, and seeing that someone obviously loves it (a fan of the same author since we are on the forums lol) makes me consider that the fault was with me for rushing through it and being prejudiced against the genre.

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