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knnn:
I wonder if there might not be dogs around somewhere.  Grimm calls the Spirearch a "son of a bitch".  While the word 'bitch' is a general insulting term, I'm pretty sure the etymology is from "dog/wolf". 

Quantus:

--- Quote from: knnn on October 08, 2015, 02:30:50 PM ---I wonder if there might not be dogs around somewhere.  Grimm calls the Spirearch a "son of a bitch".  While the word 'bitch' is a general insulting term, I'm pretty sure the etymology is from "dog/wolf".

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Could be a carry-over of the pre-Spire times, like the surface animals that no longer exist but are traditionally used as names for tavern/Inns, Horses and the like. 

Of course, that would be that the Cat's won the War in the end, and that makes me cry.  So Im hoping they are still around, also advanced like the Cats, and are acting as companions and protectors to a faction of Humanity that never retreated to the spires and is living on the surface (likely locked in a more active War with The Enemy). 

knnn:

--- Quote from: Quantus on October 08, 2015, 03:47:14 PM ---Could be a carry-over of the pre-Spire times, like the surface animals that no longer exist but are traditionally used as names for tavern/Inns, Horses and the like. 

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Perhaps, I would think that getting it to stay around as a curse word for so long would require more of an ongoing impression.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: knnn on October 09, 2015, 03:20:04 AM ---Perhaps, I would think that getting it to stay around as a curse word for so long would require more of an ongoing impression.

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I dont know, the taverns have maintained both names and images of these lost animals, so it's not ridiculously distant, even if they are all but mythic.  Besides, the etymology of words, especially insults, is a constantly evolving thing that often loose sight of their original meaning. Even now 'Bitch' has less accociation with dogs and more with complaints, cowards or beligerant women, depending on it's usage.  Ive heard at least three different origins for the phrase "fuck you" and only one of them was sexual.  I myself have enjoyed reviving insults from bygone era's ideally with little knowledge of its original meaning. 

knnn:

--- Quote from: Quantus on October 09, 2015, 12:41:07 PM ---I myself have enjoyed reviving insults from bygone era's ideally with little knowledge of its original meaning.

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Perhaps.   

Fact is that "bitch" is used several times during the series, by different people (though they might have all been aeronaughts).  This implies a wider familiarity.

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