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Cinder Spires Airship Specs So Far
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--- Quote from: knnn on October 09, 2015, 06:57:38 PM ---Thing is, the Spirestone and the vat technology implies an advanced civilization that has declined. Reverting to roman numerals after (presumably) knowing about positional notation seems a little funny.
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Perhaps, but that assumes that The Builders were Human in the first place. The Spires are an advanced technology that is well outside the capabilities of modern RL humanity (on shear size and self-sustaining autonomous function), and given the other elements of more rudimentary technologies and I wonder if they weren't built by somebody else and either Given To or Taken By the ancestor's of humanity.
On the other hand, the sort of cataclysm that would drive the human population off the surface and into the Spires would in itself be enough to cause a massive decline in technology and education; by simple upheaval and loss of resources.
knnn:
--- Quote from: Quantus on October 12, 2015, 01:55:14 PM ---Perhaps, but that assumes that The Builders were Human in the first place. The Spires are an advanced technology that is well outside the capabilities of modern RL humanity (on shear size and self-sustaining autonomous function), and given the other elements of more rudimentary technologies and I wonder if they weren't built by somebody else and either Given To or Taken By the ancestor's of humanity.
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Perhaps. FWIW, I just noticed that the spirearch is called "First Citizen", yet another Roman connection.
Still, from everything we've seen, I submit that it takes quite serious maintenence to keep a Spire running. Vents, light, air, water, minerals, growth, recycling, etc., it's almost like living in a spaceship. If you start from anything too primitive, you really need to educate the people who are going to be living in the Spire, otherwise I think everything will crumble before too long.
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--- Quote from: knnn on October 12, 2015, 02:10:35 PM ---Still, from everything we've seen, I submit that it takes quite serious maintenance to keep a Spire running. Vents, light, air, water, minerals, growth, recycling, etc., it's almost like living in a spaceship. If you start from anything too primitive, you really need to educate the people who are going to be living in the Spire, otherwise I think everything will crumble before too long.
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I dont mean to imply that they are operating with Zero work or maintenance from the human inhabitants, but I do think that overall the Sipres run themselves, powered by that massive flow of etheric energy that Folly saw, and is for the most part as incomprehensible to the current residents as is Spirestone and the various other bits of Builder craft we've seen. Im picturing a system similar to that of Zion from the Matrix sequels that most of us are still trying to forget.
knnn:
--- Quote from: Quantus on October 12, 2015, 02:16:35 PM ---I dont mean to imply that they are operating with Zero work or maintenance from the human inhabitants, but I do think that overall the Sipres run themselves, powered by that massive flow of etheric energy that Folly saw, and is for the most part as incomprehensible to the current residents as is Spirestone and the various other bits of Builder craft we've seen. Im picturing a system similar to that of Zion from the Matrix sequels that most of us are still trying to forget.
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Now you're just trolling me. The Matrix was so good, I wish they had made sequels. ;) ;D
To your point, the spires do work, but I still submit that to really support human life you would need some tech. As an example, I'm sure the vats don't run themselves, and you need things like ready access to clean water, ways to remove waste that don't clog things up, and possibly even things to clean out the air/water shafts (from soot, smoke, etc). As much as you want to ragnarok-proof the spire itself, it still is quite a fragile ecology.
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--- Quote from: knnn on October 12, 2015, 02:24:30 PM ---To your point, the spires do work, but I still submit that to really support human life you would need some tech. As an example, I'm sure the vats don't run themselves, and you need things like ready access to clean water, ways to remove waste that don't clog things up, and possibly even things to clean out the air/water shafts (from soot, smoke, etc). As much as you want to ragnarok-proof the spire itself, it still is quite a fragile ecology.
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just to be clear: when you say "need some tech" do you mean "Human's Residents would need some technical knowledge"?
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