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Cinder Spires Setting discussion [TAW Sample Chapter SPOILERS]
cass:
--- Quote from: Quantus on September 23, 2015, 01:21:55 PM ---To Artish's point, Alcohol mostly comes about by letting fruit juices and such spoil, and the secret to all cheese in history is cooking the stomachs of baby mammals (requires an enzyme from before they switch to solid food) which i imagine happened pretty often when they threw all the scraps into a stew-pot and notice that the cream soup stock has gone all chunky. I could see something similar happening to make a homogeneous tofu-style protein paste, scrounging whatever scrap animal matter they could and rendering them down into Pink Slime.
But to go to all the effort to artificially sculpt realistic animal tissues for what would be essentially a cosmetic "texture" difference seems a stretch to me. Especially if animals are rare enough that they arent typically raised and slaughtered for meat, so the majority of the population wouldnt know the difference enough to warrant the extra effort. I see it as kind of like them developing massive advanced tech to make all their meat turn purple; it's probably possible, but I just cant see how the motivation would develop.
PS In modern times not all cheese is actually Animal stomach enzyme (animal Rennet), they have created a vegan version that is processed from a mold byproduct. Because mold poop is somehow healthier, I guess.
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And yet people (and chefs) do all sorts of crazy things to alter the texture/color/smell of food products. I guess all I'm saying is that it would not break my suspension of disbelief if over the however many years people have been living in the spires they developed variations on basic food production that allowed for vastly different-seeming products. I'm not arguing for growing whole animals in a vat, just that whatever form the products of the vatteries ultimately take, there is likely quite a bit of development behind the method used to make them.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: cass on September 23, 2015, 10:51:03 PM ---And yet people (and chefs) do all sorts of crazy things to alter the texture/color/smell of food products. I guess all I'm saying is that it would not break my suspension of disbelief if over the however many years people have been living in the spires they developed variations on basic food production that allowed for vastly different-seeming products. I'm not arguing for growing whole animals in a vat, just that whatever form the products of the vatteries ultimately take, there is likely quite a bit of development behind the method used to make them.
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Fair enough :)
Quantus:
Ok, so Ive gotten a bit further and it seems that there is still some harvesting going on down on the surface (wood) and so there could easily be some animal matter being harvested rather than pure home-grown protein sludge.
And further, it seems that "Vattery" is more of a generic term for an industrial operation, like "Mill" or "Plant" since they use the same term for their crystal production sites. It makes sense, most industrial sites I work in have lots and lots of tanks and vessels so they are a visible defining trait, and it's not like every Mill around today has any Millstones grinding grain.
Phariah:
i think the meat is grown. it is not from a creature at all.
"part of growing the great sides of meat in the vattery was harvesting the leather casing that grew around them as they matured." sounds like an artificial meat source to me. if the Spires were created to get away from the earth because of some contamination or something. eating from the surface creatures was bad as they could be contaminated. so they have no room on the Spires for herd animal so they create an artificial way to create meat.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Phariah on October 01, 2015, 08:16:39 PM ---i think the meat is grown. it is not from a creature at all.
"part of growing the great sides of meat in the vattery was harvesting the leather casing that grew around them as they matured." sounds like an artificial meat source to me. if the Spires were created to get away from the earth because of some contamination or something eating from the surface creature was bad as they could be contaminated. so they have no room on the Spires for herd animal so they create an artificial way to create meat.
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good catch with that quote. I dont think Ive reached it yet.
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