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Watsonian McAnally: the son of the chief physician.
Griffyn612:
I don't think you have to guess where I stand on this. I'll just say that I don't really get the vibe that Mac, or anyone else other than Lea, has been watching over Harry. I think the 'Watcher' is more of a description rather than a title; it's more "what he's doing" as opposed to "what his job is/was". Likewise, I think his position has to be somewhat relevant for Before to know who he is/was. Your run of the mill Watcher, whether he be Fallen or Chained or Active Duty or Retired, probably wouldn't show up on Before's radar. We're talking about angels not any different from those watching Michael's house. Sure, Before might know all of them by name or reputation, since they've all been around for billions of years. But his digs at Mac seemed personal.
Eldest Gruff:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on July 28, 2015, 12:22:47 AM ---I don't think you have to guess where I stand on this. I'll just say that I don't really get the vibe that Mac, or anyone else other than Lea, has been watching over Harry. I think the 'Watcher' is more of a description rather than a title; it's more "what he's doing" as opposed to "what his job is/was". Likewise, I think his position has to be somewhat relevant for Before to know who he is/was. Your run of the mill Watcher, whether he be Fallen or Chained or Active Duty or Retired, probably wouldn't show up on Before's radar. We're talking about angels not any different from those watching Michael's house. Sure, Before might know all of them by name or reputation, since they've all been around for billions of years. But his digs at Mac seemed personal.
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And I still tend to follow your line of thought. This just seemed like an area in general that wasn't explored perhaps quite this way...and that who or whatever Mac is, was or will be very much surrounds, (if only recently, i.e. the last twenty years more or less), or has to do with out protagonist ultimately.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Eldest Gruff on July 28, 2015, 12:58:58 AM ---And I still tend to follow your line of thought. This just seemed like an area in general that wasn't explored perhaps quite this way...and that who or whatever Mac is, was or will be very much surrounds, (if only recently, i.e. the last twenty years more or less), or has to do with out protagonist ultimately.
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Yeah, but my issue with that is in the M=R theory, Mac is there to specifically watch over DR, seeing as he's invested in it. He's not really there for Harry. His presence probably preceded Harry's arrival in Chicago by millennia. He's been this bald white dude, hanging out with Indian tribes and Cubs fans for 1,500+ years.
knnn:
So can we say that Mac opened his bar around the time Harry killed Justin? If we're going on an Outsider theme, then maybe HHWB made the first move by getting Harry to use Black Magic against Justin. Then, all the eventual roads lead to Chicago/Demonreach, and so Mac decides to open a pub to intercept.
I'm not saying I'm in love with this theory, but it does kinda fit whatever we got.
peregrine:
--- Quote from: knnn on July 28, 2015, 01:36:36 AM ---So can we say that Mac opened his bar around the time Harry killed Justin? If we're going on an Outsider theme, then maybe HHWB made the first move by getting Harry to use Black Magic against Justin. Then, all the eventual roads lead to Chicago/Demonreach, and so Mac decides to open a pub to intercept.
I'm not saying I'm in love with this theory, but it does kinda fit whatever we got.
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It's possible, but nothing certain. Per the timeline, Harry killed Justin four years before he wound up in Chicago.
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