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Etymology of Angel Names in DF
Serack:
--- Quote from: megarows on July 06, 2015, 09:46:43 PM ---https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uni_(mythology) has the link to Astarte.
Would trusted scholars be so petty? Anyway, she existed elsewhere in myth first.
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Not that Dante's Inferno was exactly a scholarly work, but I remember learning in High school that he placed some of the people that wronged him in his life in the lowest level of hell.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: megarows on July 06, 2015, 09:46:43 PM ---https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uni_(mythology) has the link to Astarte.
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Wow, cool! This is a whole other layer to the Greco-Roman mythology that I wasnt even aware of.
--- Quote ---Would trusted scholars be so petty? Anyway, she existed elsewhere in myth first.
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Well, this is the same organization that at one point in their history was marketing fake religious trinkets ("this isnt just any stick, it's an actual chunk of the original Cross! I swear...) for sale as a way to literally buy your loved ones way into heaven. :P
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Quantus on July 06, 2015, 09:47:16 PM ---Nah, nothing so simple, or settled for that matter. There's lots and lots of debate, but general sense seems to be that she was a borrowed figure from other, mostly older polytheistic traditions. Some have her as an individual figure, many others as a class of demon. Looks like the oldest mention is in the Dead Sea Scrolls, which was one of the relative few that actually specified a singular entity.
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I just did some serious research (Wikipedia), and I don't see where Lilith the human is canonical until after 700-1000 AD, when she was first described as Adam's wife. Before that, every interpretation seems to describe her as a spirit or demon. That doesn't seem to clash too much with her potentially being a fallen angel. No more or less than the Naagloshi.
Really, there are parts of the Wikipedia description that remind me is Mab. Many translations point toward the name meaning "night demon", but some are saying a combination of wind and night.
As in, Air and Darkness?
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on July 08, 2015, 12:59:12 AM ---I just did some serious research (Wikipedia), and I don't see where Lilith the human is canonical until after 700-1000 AD, when she was first described as Adam's wife. Before that, every interpretation seems to describe her as a spirit or demon. That doesn't seem to clash too much with her potentially being a fallen angel. No more or less than the Naagloshi.
Really, there are parts of the Wikipedia description that remind me is Mab. Many translations point toward the name meaning "night demon", but some are saying a combination of wind and night.
As in, Air and Darkness?
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OOOOHHHhhh!
Foxed:
For what it's worth, Prince of Air and Darkness is also a title for Satan. Discovered that reading either The Penguin Book of Witches or Spirit of the New England Tribes. My money's on the latter, because it explicitly states that this title is what caused the Puritans to conflate Hobbamock, the Wampanoag spirit of air and darkness (and the god of magic/shamans) with the devil.
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