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Etymology of Angel Names in DF
Second Aristh:
For Urumviel: Thor's hammer in Marvel mythology is made of a metal called Uru, and I've seen Urim used for a name of a magical material before. Possibly a Beta Ray Bill connection?
Also for Lasciel, it may be worth mentioning that the hourglass sigil is reminiscent of a black widow spider's abdomen marking.
Tami Seven:
--- Quote from: Tami Seven on June 29, 2015, 06:34:02 AM ---It's an Old English word, but I still don't have a definition. If I find it I will let you know.
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Found one source that defines Varth as meaning "A wonder"
wizard nelson:
--- Quote from: peregrine on June 29, 2015, 03:57:06 AM ---I think when someone is trying to summon HWWB, they call him something like "darkest shadow."
Also, in Small Favor, when Eldest Gruff is chatting with Harry after killing Magog, he refers to the Denarians as "Servants of the darkest shadow."
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Ah thank you, I was starting to worry I'd imagined it or it wasn't actually in the DF it said that.
--- Quote from: Second Aristh on June 29, 2015, 06:32:08 PM ---For Urumviel: Thor's hammer in Marvel mythology is made of a metal called Uru, and I've seen Urim used for a name of a magical material before. Possibly a Beta Ray Bill connection?
Also for Lasciel, it may be worth mentioning that the hourglass sigil is reminiscent of a black widow spider's abdomen marking.
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The hourglass symbol I figured might have something to do with the eyes of the dark Magician Raistlin Majere., from dragon lance fame. One of if not the most famous fallen wizard type. figure it was a reference to the 'truth' of how he was corrupted. Jims a fan, but I can't remember the authers name atm.
Tami Seven:
--- Quote from: Tami Seven on June 29, 2015, 06:45:47 PM ---Found one source that defines Varth as meaning "A wonder"
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Or it could be related to the word vardlokkur.
Or this definition:
--- Quote --- vardlokkur (varth-lokk-ur) - 1. The Warder’s Song; warding charm, ward–allure, ward-entice. 2. Lulling, sight/vision inducing spirit songs. Warding songs used in seidr work. A special gift given to the MOs who come to a seidr. 3. A singer of vardlokkur. 4. A person who opens and closes fetters and locks. 5. One who has the power of binding and releasing spirits using runes. 6. A protector of the Gates. 7. A family’s traditional song used in the home when folks were sitting out with the ancestors to say hello and name their needs.
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Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: wizard nelson on June 29, 2015, 06:50:14 PM ---The hourglass symbol I figured might have something to do with the eyes of the dark Magician Raistlin Majere., from dragon lance fame. One of if not the most famous fallen wizard type. figure it was a reference to the 'truth' of how he was corrupted. Jims a fan, but I can't remember the authers name atm.
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With epithets like the "Webweaver" and the "Temptress", the spider theme seems to fit better imo. Raistlin's eyes seem to be more of a symbol for time itself.
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