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Etymology of Angel Names in DF
Eldest Gruff:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on June 29, 2015, 02:01:30 AM ---I don't recall that. I remember him being mentioned only twice. The first in FM by Chauncy, who called him "the Dark Prince", and then in SmF, when Harry calls him "the Prince of fucking Darkness". I just did a quick text search of the 15 books + SJ, and there were no results for "darkest shadow". It might have been in one of the short stories not included in SJ.
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And the offhanded mention in SG about the last time an archangel Falling there were 'extended consequences'.
Griffyn612:
If you expand source roots, we can possibly find some more.
Salur/Alur from Malay1, which means "flow/move like liquid" (vaguely snake-like).
Ima from Hungarian2 gets you "Prayer", as in praying mantis form for Imariel.
Akar from Malay3 gets you "plant root". Akariel is described as dark, big, and furry, but that's it. There's a possibility that its actually a plant-like form, and the "fur" is actually a lot of root hairs all across the body. Seems like a stretch, but I haven't seen anything else.
Nam from Vietnamese4 means "man". Thorned Namshiel is said to look like a human skeleton with bone spurs at its joints. It could be a proto-man form.
Urumviel is the only name+description we have. Ur, Uru, Urum, Rum, and Um don't seem to have any roots similar to the description of leathery plates on the spine. The first thing I think of is a stegosaurus, with the Greek usage of saurus meaning lizard-like. Borrow the -uru- from saurus... maybe...
peregrine:
I think when someone is trying to summon HWWB, they call him something like "darkest shadow."
Also, in Small Favor, when Eldest Gruff is chatting with Harry after killing Magog, he refers to the Denarians as "Servants of the darkest shadow."
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: peregrine on June 29, 2015, 03:57:06 AM ---I think when someone is trying to summon HWWB, they call him something like "darkest shadow."
Also, in Small Favor, when Eldest Gruff is chatting with Harry after killing Magog, he refers to the Denarians as "Servants of the darkest shadow."
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I just checked. Gruff actually does say it in SmF. My text search is failing to find that string. “Hast thou asked why the wicked Queen of Winter would wish thee to prevent Marcone from being taken by those servants of the darkest shadow? Why she who embodies destruction and death would wish to protect and preserve the Archive?” - Butcher, Jim (2009-03-03). Small Favor: A Novel of the Dresden Files (p. 374). Penguin Group. Kindle Edition.
Now we just have to question whether he's referring to Lucifer, or referring to Nicodemus controlling the other Denarians and having them do his dirty work. One's the master of shadows, and the other is the Prince of Darkness.
As for the summoning of Behind, here's what Marge says: “While here we wait, O hunter of the shadows! We who yearn for your shadow to fall upon our enemy! We who cry out in need for thy strength, O Lord of Slowest Terror! May your right arm come to us! Send unto us your captain of destruction! Mastercraftsman of death! Let now our need become the traveler’s road, the vessel for He Who Walks Behind!” - Butcher, Jim (2010-03-03). Blood Rites: Book six of The Dresden Files (p. 346). Roc. Kindle Edition.
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But this text search thing is driving me nuts. I can even search "servants of the darkest", and it'll find it, and "shadow?". But if I search "darkest shadow", "darkest s", or even "t shadow", it comes back with 0 results.
Now I'm questioning all of the searches I've done.
Tami Seven:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on June 29, 2015, 05:00:03 AM ---I just checked. Gruff actually does say it in SmF. My text search is failing to find that string. “Hast thou asked why the wicked Queen of Winter would wish thee to prevent Marcone from being taken by those servants of the darkest shadow? Why she who embodies destruction and death would wish to protect and preserve the Archive?” - Butcher, Jim (2009-03-03). Small Favor: A Novel of the Dresden Files (p. 374). Penguin Group. Kindle Edition.
Now we just have to question whether he's referring to Lucifer, or referring to Nicodemus controlling the other Denarians and having them do his dirty work. One's the master of shadows, and the other is the Prince of Darkness.
As for the summoning of Behind, here's what Marge says: “While here we wait, O hunter of the shadows! We who yearn for your shadow to fall upon our enemy! We who cry out in need for thy strength, O Lord of Slowest Terror! May your right arm come to us! Send unto us your captain of destruction! Mastercraftsman of death! Let now our need become the traveler’s road, the vessel for He Who Walks Behind!” - Butcher, Jim (2010-03-03). Blood Rites: Book six of The Dresden Files (p. 346). Roc. Kindle Edition.
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But this text search thing is driving me nuts. I can even search "servants of the darkest", and it'll find it, and "shadow?". But if I search "darkest shadow", "darkest s", or even "t shadow", it comes back with 0 results.
Now I'm questioning all of the searches I've done.
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I'll never understand why they who control this forum won't open it up to Google searches. :shrug:
Anyway, I really doubt that Nic and the Denarians are working for the Outsiders.
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