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He Couldn't Lose [SG Spoilers]
Phariah:
--- Quote from: namkcas on July 07, 2015, 12:45:11 AM ---1. Showing up in 5 minutes no matter WHERE he was in the NN takes more than knowing the ways. (GP)
2. She had to bargain with Odin to get the insta-gate (Changes).
3. All the beings chasing Harry from AT could not catch Harry and Team (PG).
So we have to reconcile all the places that Harry went in GP and say they are very near her garden in the NN - which makes no sense as Agatha Hagglethorn lived in her own pocket dimension.
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the thing is Lea has been watching over Harry. she pops out to save him at Ruel's apt, she pops out to save him at the supermarket, she pops out in the cemetery to save him. places close in the real world could have distances of being on opposite ends of the NN yet she is always there. she has told him that. he even puts it together when she tells him an he thinks of the time w/ Agatha. so I definitely think this leads to her knowing shortcuts as well as insta travel similar to Odin's.
the armies coming to AT were fighting through time dilation. something which we know Erl does not work with as he tells us in CD. he was the one leading the charge. so Harry was able to maintain a lead for awhile till they reached the gate.
yes it took longer because Harry was leading the way through the NN to get to CI. he never asked Lea for help or guidance.
namkcas:
So, you are saying that Lea AT ALL TIMES was watching Harry. She was NEVER EVER doing anything else.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Phariah on July 07, 2015, 06:38:43 PM ---the thing is Lea has been watching over Harry. she pops out to save him at Ruel's apt, she pops out to save him at the supermarket, she pops out in the cemetery to save him. places close in the real world could have distances of being on opposite ends of the NN yet she is always there. she has told him that. he even puts it together when she tells him an he thinks of the time w/ Agatha. so I definitely think this leads to her knowing shortcuts as well as insta travel similar to Odin's.
the armies coming to AT were fighting through time dilation. something which we know Erl does not work with as he tells us in CD. he was the one leading the charge. so Harry was able to maintain a lead for awhile till they reached the gate.
yes it took longer because Harry was leading the way through the NN to get to CI. he never asked Lea for help or guidance.
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I doubt she can do the same point-to-point Gate that Odin did, simply because she had to bargain "aggressively" to get him to do it, and it would have had far less value if she could do it herself. Other than that I fully expect they can travel far far faster than Harry or even his mother could ever hope to, simply because it's an innate part of them like all their other magic, and the travel in particular is something even the Little Folk get. Granted it would have likely been much harder on Lea if Harry hadnt settled in suhc a massive nexus of Ways.
--- Quote from: namkcas on July 07, 2015, 06:46:57 PM ---So, you are saying that Lea AT ALL TIMES was watching Harry. She was NEVER EVER doing anything else.
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If she considered it to be an implied duty as Godmother then absolutely. Or more accurately, she /kept a watch on him/. It wouldnt have to be a 24/7 personal duty, so long as she was confident of her response time should something occur.
But we do knwo that she couldnt shadow him at all times and in all places. She couldnt approach while HWWB was after him, for example. Presumably she could not follow him to Demonreach's NN side, or Erl's Court, likely couldnt track him in Edinburough, and similarly fortified places. But between her own magic capabilities, and the staff she can presumably leverage as the #2 in all of Winter, I expect she could manage a passive watch easily enough.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: Quantus on July 06, 2015, 07:30:03 PM ---Per the quote I posted, that's not what she said. It is, I admit, the most common and arguably the most logical interpretation, however.
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Per the quote you posted, that's exactly what she said.
--- Quote ---"My mother passed it on to me," she replied. "As I was born, just as she received it when she was born."
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She's clearly saying this is how the Archive works.
--- Quote ---Per the quote I posted, that's not explicitly/literally what she said. It is, I admit, the most common and arguably the most logical interpretation, however. It all hinges on whether she was interpreting the question of her "gig" as Archive being the Fate/Duty of it, or the actual "Comforted" is a pretty big stretch. That implies positive emotions, or really any emotions at all, which were not evident in that scene. The closest she gets is referring to her mother as "Free of It". Otherwise she jsut tells Harry that she has no need to be Sorry for her mother dying because she knows
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Yes, that is what she said. She says that she got the Archive the same way her Mother did, in a way that is clearly meant to say, "This is how it works." She says she doesn't even understand why Dresden would be sorry, because her mother lives on in her head. That's the opposite of what you'd expect if the mother living in her head hated her so much and was so disgusted that she killed herself to spite her.
She's not saying, "I got it from birth, which put my mother in a vegetative state, just like my mother did to her mother. Oh, and we're the only ones it's happened to, every other Archive worked in a completely different way." She's clearly intending that this is just how the thing works.
Ivy's being very clear in what she's saying and intending. She has no reason to make things up here, and if she had anything to hide, she could hide just as easily and a heck of a lot more simply by simply not saying anything. Harry would expect a supernatural thing like the Archive to clam up, if she just said, "I'd rather not say," he'd have understood.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on July 07, 2015, 08:28:05 PM ---...
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I give up. It was just a means to help even out people's head-cannon anyway
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