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He Couldn't Lose [SG Spoilers]
knnn:
Obviously this is not a discrepancy, but rather a cluebat that Harry has (yet) unknowingly switched into a MM universe. ;D
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Eldest Gruff on July 06, 2015, 07:48:19 PM ---'With it' in the abstract sense certainly. But not 'with it' in actuality. For two reasons, A) a prince can be born destined to be a King but die young and never reach that potential and B) because she wasn't born with a destiny per that description on her part...she was born with it ALL, her mother emptied like a cup and flowed it all into her as she was being pushed out. So while I understand the interpretation, within your own supporting passage is the same girl saying she was born with it all wholesale...not just a destiny but an actuality.
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True Enough, but that still wouldnt be a contradiction, or a Lie (in the Fae sense at least). It's just that the two sentences werent as connected as they appeared on first read. The first was an explanation of the "Gig" in response to that question, then she was answering his question about her Mother, explaining that she'd died, and that at that same moment all of Mother flowed into her along with the rest of the archive. But the Cause and Effect of that is all left up to implication and assumption.
--- Quote ---Well if her eyes turning 'wistful and distant' are any indicator she was perfectly capable of feeling at least sadness and probably no small degree of regret for what reads like a child who knows full well that she is the reason her mother died and essentially that she killed her by absorbing the Archive away from her mother at birth. As opposed to, as we find out later, a girl who knows her mother killed herself rather than be Ivy's mother...who isn't in a persistent vegetative state but gone entirely and who didn't die an essentially noble death, letting all that she was flow into her daughter so that she might have life but a girl who saddled her unborn (or barely born) child with this burden.
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Aha, but couldnt that wistfulness when saying "She's free of it" simply indicate a surviving echo of her mother's emotional state and Final Decision? Being most likely her First and likely most Powerful memory it would have to have shaped her on a pretty fundamental level, precisely as the Council fears? In the right light it looks like foreshadowing.
--- Quote ---The tones are off in the two conversations (especially Ivy's) to fit the 'facts' as we know them per Luccio into the interpretation of the scene with Harry and Ivy, (without a level of hurdling that while I don't fault you if you'd rather see it that way to try and reconcile the scenes, I can't), when the most likely and obvious answer is Jim changed his mind and now we're stuck with a bit of a discrepancy.
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Oh, make no mistake, I am engaging this exercise specifically to find a logical Watsonian explanation for the discrepancy, because I prefer a smooth continuity for my own peace of mind. In no way am I trying to say that this interpretation is actually what JB intended when he wrote DM, just that an logical explanation that jives with what we know now is indeed possible. If I could find an in-world reason for Molly's age to change (that doesnt involve Time Travel or mirror world theories because shoot me :P) or the Bianca Assistant Name Change, I would.
Hell, Im the guy tried to say the differences between James Marster's narration and John Glover was due to how a difference in Harry sounded while an immaterial Ghost.
Eldest Gruff:
--- Quote from: Quantus on July 06, 2015, 08:14:43 PM ---Hell, Im the guy tried to say the differences between James Marster's narration and John Glover was due to how a difference in Harry sounded while an immaterial Ghost.
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Now I KNOW you have too much time on your hands.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Eldest Gruff on July 06, 2015, 08:31:22 PM ---Now I KNOW you have too much time on your hands.
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There was doubt? ;)
knnn:
--- Quote from: Eldest Gruff on July 06, 2015, 08:31:22 PM ---Now I KNOW you have too much time on your hands.
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Any true believer in the Church of Jim Butcher knows that the Holy Texts can not possibly have inconsistencies in them, and that that the only reason we seem to find such is because we do not fully eff His ineffable will.
We thank brother Quantus for his extreme diligence in his ceaseless drive to enlighten the rest of us unwashed masses. Truly he is of the few blessed chosen. ;)
There is no god but Jim Butcher and Priscellie is his prophet.
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