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Who Attacked Arctis Tor, and Why
Arjan:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on February 26, 2015, 03:23:30 PM ---That strikes me as an assertion that thus far has not one shred of proof.
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As Kringle he is a winter king and subject to Mab. Woj calls him a winter king and a specific aspect of winter, a more benevolent one.
Harry would be wise to work via Kringle and not Odin, it is probably safer that way.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Arjan on February 26, 2015, 04:46:17 PM ---As Kringle he is a winter king and subject to Mab.
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Winter King, yes. Subject to mab ? I thought we had a WoJ somewhere that the Faerie Kings aren't technically subjects to their Queens, just generally go along with them because it's easier than making a fuss.
Eldest Gruff:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on February 26, 2015, 05:00:58 PM ---Winter King, yes. Subject to mab ? I thought we had a WoJ somewhere that the Faerie Kings aren't technically subjects to their Queens, just generally go along with them because it's easier than making a fuss.
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They have SOME latitude but they must be beholden to the Queens otherwise Kringle wouldn't have felt obliged to show up to Mac's in SG as anything.
Acalanthis:
--- Quote from: Eldest Gruff on February 26, 2015, 05:05:47 PM ---They have SOME latitude but they must be beholden to the Queens otherwise Kringle wouldn't have felt obliged to show up to Mac's in SG as anything.
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I think that the distinction is that while the "Summer King", the Erlking, is nominally affiliated with Summer but is in reality a major lord of the Wyldfae, the "Winter King" is actually a member of Mab's court, hence why she can order him around. At the same time, ol' Kringle is allowed latitude to act outside of the rules and restrictions of the Winter Fae in his role as Donar Vadderung, CEO of Monoc Securities, which is about as separate from the Fae as you can get.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Eldest Gruff on February 26, 2015, 05:05:47 PM ---They have SOME latitude but they must be beholden to the Queens otherwise Kringle wouldn't have felt obliged to show up to Mac's in SG as anything.
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Remind me where in the text it says he was obliged to show up ?
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