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Who Attacked Arctis Tor, and Why
Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad:
--- Quote from: groinkick on February 22, 2015, 04:13:26 AM ---But technically isn't Mavra a demon with free will? Maybe after Dresden threatened her she was willing to make them an offer. A merger. "I help you with your goals, you help me with mine, then we go our separate ways." or something like that.
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Hmm...when a human is killed by a Black Court Vampire, does his/her soul depart? My guess would be yes, as our souls depart when we die--or, according to my faith, the connection (i.e. will) between our souls and bodies is severed, such that we remain aware of our surroundings but can no longer respond to them physically through our bodies.
Mavra was originally human. Is her rotting corpse now inhabited by her shade? She's dead, after all. Can a human shade pick up a coin and receive a Fallen?
You've broached a really intriguing subject, Groinkick--I suggest you start a topic thread on it.
Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad:
--- Quote from: Eldest Gruff on February 22, 2015, 04:15:36 AM ---I don't think the Denarians have anything she wants. Mavra is all about Mavra, and with the Darkhallow ritual at her fingertips i'm sure she has much bigger plans. A Fallen would just get in her way.
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I got the impression that Mavra wanted Kemmler's book so it couldn't be used against her and her kind, not that she had delusions of god-hood.
Eldest Gruff:
--- Quote from: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on February 22, 2015, 04:23:15 AM ---I got the impression that Mavra wanted Kemmler's book so it couldn't be used against her and her kind, not that she had delusions of god-hood.
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Idk, the Word of Kemmler is kind of a non-threat to her and her people, who's gonna attain god-hood and go aiming for the scraps of the Black Court? I actually thing she wanted it for someone else entirely.
Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad:
--- Quote from: Eldest Gruff on February 22, 2015, 04:26:04 AM ---Idk, the Word of Kemmler is kind of a non-threat to her and her people, who's gonna attain god-hood and go aiming for the scraps of the Black Court? I actually thing she wanted it for someone else entirely.
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Yeah, but I'm pretty sure there's either brief mention in DB text or a WoJ that she wanted the book because it could be used by necromancers to threaten the Black Court. Anyone with a reasonably intact memory care to take a swing at this?
Acalanthis:
--- Quote from: Al-Hajj Bilal Ammar Jihad on February 22, 2015, 04:31:16 AM ---Yeah, but I'm pretty sure there's either brief mention in DB text or a WoJ that she wanted the book because it could be used by necromancers to threaten the Black Court. Anyone with a reasonably intact memory care to take a swing at this?
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Well, Harry's threat to her at the end of Dead Beat certainly seems to suggest that Mavra believes that necromancy can be turned against blampires like herself, and that the Word of Kemmler specifically contained that information.
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