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bookivore:
--- Quote from: Belmonte on July 04, 2006, 05:24:58 AM ---Er, no, you don't get my point. What I was saying is this: do the books -say- outright that Tavi's birthdate (the one Isana gave him) is the same time as the First Calderon? Let's say FC happened 15 years ago. If Isana wanted to hide his age, she could say he's older than that, or younger. He looks 'young for his age' so older than that is possible. It would all depend on whether or not his birthdate is flagged as the time of FC ICly or not.
Though oddly, looking at the book (to get information to comment further on), Tavi insists that First Calderon happened far before he was born--it's in the section with the Princeps' Monument.
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Somehow I missed a page of replies discussing this same point, sorry. But for a few specific details:
I looked a the monument section and the next section with Amara, Tavi & Bernard walking to Bernardholt and found a time check - "The Marat had returned to the Calderon Valley, something that had not happened in nearly seventeen years." near the beginning of chapter 15.
Elsewhere in the book Tavi says that he is 15 but others think he looks younger than 15. Amara asks if he's 12 or 13 when he talks about being furyless, and he says that he is 15. 15 plus nine months does not equal nearly 17, so Tavi does not know his correct age.
With Isana confessing to having stunted Tavis growth and specifically saying "I didn't stop" I think she has lied about his birthdate and then stunted him to appear even younger than his supposed 15 years. The main logical flaw to her lie would be the official date of the death of Isana's sister, Tavi's supposed mother, which would be another thing to research. There would be no witnesses other than Isana and Araris to leap out and say "Aha! but the woman was dead a year before you say!" if they went immediately into hiding.
Delarith:
As events in Curser's Fury pan out we see that Tavi was born at the same time as the First Battle of Calderon. However at the time it was before even the first of the settlers arrived in the valley (this is mentioned in the first book I think). Also Bernard was off in the north doing his time in the legions so by time he arrives in Calderon and the rest of the people, the only thing they have to go by with Tavi's age is whatever Isana tells them.
Its possible that Tavi is older than what people think because that is what Isana has told them. Further hiding him from prying eyes that might discover his true identy.
belgarion:
Bernard and Isana have no secrets. Bernard knows who Tavi is. That's pretty much stated in FoC. I don't have the book in front of me at the moment, but there is a part when Isana is talking to Bernard and says something like "It's happening!" or something like that. And Isana also asks Amara if "she had come for Tavi?". He would know exactly how old Tavi really is and he probably even knows about Isana's "tampering".
But you are right, it doesn't exactly add up by a year. Maybe it's just a slip, although Jim doesn't slip on the details.
Yshyr:
--- Quote from: belgarion on September 14, 2007, 11:35:11 PM ---Bernard and Isana have no secrets. Bernard knows who Tavi is. That's pretty much stated in FoC. I don't have the book in front of me at the moment, but there is a part when Isana is talking to Bernard and says something like "It's happening!" or something like that. And Isana also asks Amara if "she had come for Tavi?". He would know exactly how old Tavi really is and he probably even knows about Isana's "tampering".
But you are right, it doesn't exactly add up by a year. Maybe it's just a slip, although Jim doesn't slip on the details.
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I am not so sure about Bernard knowing. In CuF he has no clue who Fade is. My guess is that Isana told Bernard that Tavi's Father was a high ranking citizen and his family might come looking for him some day. Given how few rights non citizens seem to have that would probably be enough of a story to get Bernard to be on guard. If she had told him the truth then I see no reason for her to Keep Araris a secret from Bernard.
Delarith:
Yeah I wonder how much Bernard knows, how much he's figured out and how many lies he believes because thats what Isana told him.
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