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Mab preventing use of Little Chicago
namkcas:
Griffyn,
--- Quote ---You're ignoring the fact that after creating little Chicago, he doesn't do a tracking spell first to then do it again with little Chicago. he just does it with little Chicago.
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Not ignoring it. If you agree with me that LC only enhances working tracking spells, your theory means that Mab would have to make Harry forget something that she knew would not work. Which makes no sense to me.
I just think notion that Mab knows everything that is going to happen in advance at all times seems like a stretch. I think she is really good at plotting and judging outcomes especially when it is a plan she has set in motion (SG). I think she has lots of plans and backup plans. But to think she:
- Knew Shagnasty would be coming after Harry
- And then kidnap Thomas
Given that we don't know why Shagnasty showed up (remember it is assumed that he followed Morgan and it could be further presumed from that he is sent by somebody aligned with Nemesis/Outsiders to make sure that Morgan is found), it would mean that Mab forsaw all the events in Edinburgh or was able to react to Morgan's run in a very insightful way.
peregrine:
--- Quote from: knnn on February 02, 2015, 03:28:53 PM ---Other options (in decreasing order of plausiblity):
1) The threshold around Harry apartment was so weakend (by the FBI and possibly also once the fire started), that it didn't take much for even a faerie to grab LC.
2) A Faerie (e.g. Cat Sith) grabbed LC but was then Nemfected, and that somehow gets around said faerie's need to return it (far-fecthed, but possible).
3) TT Harry grabbed it. ;)
4) LC gained sentinence (through it's inclusion of Demonreach?) and saved itself.
5) Mister saved it.
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Well, we see that the fae can just waltz through a threshold if they are there to help the resident. So no need for a weak threshold. And, as Harry hasn't asked for it back, they have no real issue with not giving it back to him. Lea didn't give Harry his gift from his Mom until he specifically asked about it.
knnn:
--- Quote from: peregrine on February 02, 2015, 04:35:41 PM ---Well, we see that the fae can just waltz through a threshold if they are there to help the resident. So no need for a weak threshold. And, as Harry hasn't asked for it back, they have no real issue with not giving it back to him. Lea didn't give Harry his gift from his Mom until he specifically asked about it.
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Pretty sure Maggie Sr. specified that Harry not get it until he asked for it.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: namkcas on February 02, 2015, 04:14:49 PM ---Griffyn,
Not ignoring it. If you agree with me that LC only enhances working tracking spells, your theory means that Mab would have to make Harry forget something that she knew would not work. Which makes no sense to me.
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We don't know why she would not want him to use it. Maybe it was to force him to use Demonreach. Maybe she was worried about the backlash if it succeeded and Shagnasty tried eating his astral form. Maybe it was something else altogether.
All we know is that the circumstances are similar to those when she'd taken his memories previously, and there's no obvious reason for Harry not to use it.
--- Quote ---I just think notion that Mab knows everything that is going to happen in advance at all times seems like a stretch. I think she is really good at plotting and judging outcomes especially when it is a plan she has set in motion (SG). I think she has lots of plans and backup plans. But to think she:
- Knew Shagnasty would be coming after Harry
- And then kidnap Thomas
Given that we don't know why Shagnasty showed up (remember it is assumed that he followed Morgan and it could be further presumed from that he is sent by somebody aligned with Nemesis/Outsiders to make sure that Morgan is found), it would mean that Mab forsaw all the events in Edinburgh or was able to react to Morgan's run in a very insightful way.
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Yeah, the "Mab knows everything" thing is obnoxious. I think it has to be a more direct reason that we're just not seeing, if she did in fact do it. When she took his memory of fire magic before, it was to protect him from being tracked by it. there's got to be something just as simple. I just can't think of what it could be.
namkcas:
Griffyn,
Under those thoughts...I accept your assertions!
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