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Mab preventing use of Little Chicago
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: smwood on January 31, 2015, 02:43:54 AM ---I don't think Harry intended to fight Shagnasty man to man, that is why he lured the Raiths and Wizards, and brought the Zalord's army, and werewolves. It is a link to why he did his ritual, but Harry mainly did it to lure out the traitors.
You may be on to something about mind manipulation, but it makes more sense to me that it was the unborn SOI doing it, not Mab. The SOI had all the knowledge of Lash (and Harry), and likely knew that Harry would fare poorly in a one on one fight with Shagnasty. She may have feared for her own life.
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The SoI is certainly a possibility. I'm not sure how cognizant it was at that point, and we can't know for sure until we're told. But I could see it trying to manipulate Harry to preserve itself, but it would have to have a purpose. It seems odd to just want to prevent Harry from using Mouse to find Thomas.
--- Quote from: Sully on January 31, 2015, 02:48:34 AM ---Does LC have Demonreach installed on it?
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I don't imagine so. He had to put all the pieces together for LC prior to PROVEN GUILTY, and there was no mention of him updating it to include the island after SMALL FAVOR. And since he always seemed to have some level of omniscience on the island, I doubt he'd feel a need.
--- Quote from: namkcas on January 31, 2015, 04:04:34 AM ---Well, I think a better way of saying that is "Why would you believe that Shagnasty had Thomas in Chicago?" Little Chicago only matters if he is. If he is not, the best you might know is what path was taken. I also thought the use of LC was essentially a tracking spell in any case. So, maybe Harry figures if he gets nothing from tracking spells at all why spend all the energy to use LC.
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It's possible, but the point is, all the other tracking spells failed. I can't see Harry not trying LC when everything failed, just in case. That's like saying, "No, we're not going to ping his phone to locate him, the Shagnasty surely ditched that." But it doesn't hurt to try if everything else fails.
peregrine:
My own prejudices are against Mab being behind it because I don't like Mab being behind everything, and "The same words were used to describe this" ignores the very real issue that it's secretly the same person writing everything in the series, so he's going to use the same phrasing more than once. Like the "Ice pick headache" thing.
That said, didn't Harry need a chunk of the car to track down people using LC before? And he lacked that thaumaturgical connection with Thomas, yes?
Rykel22:
I have to wonder if Harry did use LC would he have gotten psychic backlash from Shagnasty. Cowl's banishing of Harry on WN melted some of LC remember.
peregrine:
--- Quote from: Rykel22 on January 31, 2015, 04:37:55 AM ---I have to wonder if Harry did use LC would he have gotten psychic backlash from Shagnasty. Cowl's banishing of Harry on WN melted some of LC remember.
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Hard to say, since the melting was because of a lot of energy dumped into the system by Cowl, and Shagnasty doesn't seem much for the evocation like that.
Technically, the melting was to save Harry's brain from LC blowing it up when it failed deadly, but that's not necessarily relevant to the question of bad guys throwing energy around.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Rykel22 on January 31, 2015, 04:37:55 AM ---I have to wonder if Harry did use LC would he have gotten psychic backlash from Shagnasty. Cowl's banishing of Harry on WN melted some of LC remember.
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Yeah, I think it would take a focused attack on Harry's astral self to cause that damage again. Shagnasty might be able to do that, but I'm not sure that Harry would even need to go astral. he could probably just do a location spell like he did for Molly in Proven Guilty.
As for Cowl's attack, I'm assuming the damage was repaired between White Night and Small Favor, since he used it in the latter without concern.
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