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Proven Guilty Mysteries
raidem:
--- Quote ---“You trusted her with your mind and your life,” Mab said. “I took that as a statement of confidence in her abilities.
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You know, I sometimes wonder if I'm infected with some sort of Ms.Duck disease. I cant help but view Mab's lines not just as a literal comment but one that has a bearing on herself. For instance, Mab is saying two things: Harry had confidence in Molly; Secondly, Harry had confidence in Molly=Mab's abilities.
I just don't do this with Mab words, I see things in the books and its like all shaded by Ms. Duck's theory. Its like Ms. Duck actually is Molly and Mab and she is playing with my thoughts, my mind. Is there some banishment spell or something that can help with this affliction?
ShadowWing:
To add to more fuel to the plot is also Mab's comment that she thought Molly was better suited to Summer.
She may have been directly/indirectly working with Titania to groom Molly for a role in the SUMMER court, Mab had just discovered her Winter Lady was infected, but no worries she has a spare daughter if she can't cure Maeve. But if the Outsiders/Enemy has gotten THAT close to Mab then the current Summer Lady has GOT to go, Lily was in no way ready for the role she would need to play if the Enemy got further 'inside' so to speak. Molly could have started to be groomed become the Summer Knight or Summer Lady at the Proven Guilty stage.
It was only after her actions in Changes, messing with Harry's mind, able to make the hard logical calls to 'get the job done' as opposed of letting her very strong emotions/feeling for Harry get in the way of it would have gotten Mab's attention. By choosing Logic over her Heart Molly showed she had the chops to be a part of the Winter Court, and Mab tailored her plans accordingly.
Lawgiver:
--- Quote from: Serack on January 26, 2015, 03:41:23 PM ---Hmmmm, I just thought of an issue with TTHarry acting in PG. It's a little vague and probably workaroundable but it is a genuine issue that is new.
In PG Slate still holds the Winter Knight mantle. If TTHarry is still the Winter Knight when he is doing his alleged shenanigans in PG, wouldn't the dual mantle presence present its own paradox?
Dangit, now I've got an itch to create an exhaustive topic outlining the possible LC fix perps, and thoroughly hashing the pros and cons of each.
Edit: Never mind, wyltok already did an amaising job of discussing most of this here
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Is it likely that having 2 WK mantles present at the same time would weaken Winter and supply the heat in the book? The power of the mantles comes from Mab. If she's powering two of them at the same time that might set some limits on her influences and, by extension, supply a simple action/reaction 'boost' to Summer's influences. Might explain why she's in AT, staying as close to the Wellspring as she can.
And, having two mantles together like that would give Mab loads of support why she tells Harry (more than once) he'll be the WK at some point. She knows it because it's already happened.
Not sure. It's so muddy that almost anything could be true.
/sigh
Carl:
Read the surrounding text, (the specific line i was thinking of may have been lea in GS now that i think about it):
Specifically:
--- Quote ---Had I not considered her an excellent candidate, I would never have had her prepared.
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In this case prepared is clearly referencing the point a few pages earlier that it was Molly's association with the Fae through Lea that made her a viable as a Lady candidate. Mab had Molly prepared because of what Harry did in changes. Which is what i said anyway.
raidem:
--- Quote ---Hmmmm, I just thought of an issue with TTHarry acting in PG. It's a little vague and probably workaroundable but it is a genuine issue that is new.
In PG Slate still holds the Winter Knight mantle. If TTHarry is still the Winter Knight when he is doing his alleged shenanigans in PG, wouldn't the dual mantle presence present its own paradox?
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Actually, I encountered this same conundrum when I predicted a (Kumori=Maggie Sr) and (Kumori/Maggie Sr has Lasciel's coin) theory. A reality with time travel could have multiple coins of the same Fallen existing at the same point in time, particularly if they are carried there by a time traveler.
But this same problem exists when one has the same individual present multiple times within same timeframe. There are probably similar mechanisms that explain both. TTHarry (from future) would be pulling power from the FutureQueens not from the current Queens. Future Queens determined that it was necessary to defeat a gambit in the past by sending their knight and power into the past, it weakens them in their current time but its likely that the enemy did the same thing by sending their power into the past which then required a response from the Queens.
It seems to me that it is Mother Summer and Winter that have jurisdiction over of matters of time. Like there is a distribution of responsibility for each level in the Queens hierarchy.
Time; Time
Winter and Outergate; Summer and Mab;
Winter and Mortal Realm Summer and Mortal Realm
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