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knnn:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on June 23, 2014, 10:12:43 PM ---I swear, a while back, there was a WoJ that Uriel might not be an archangel that has existed from the dawn of time; instead, he might be a being that believes he is. 

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Wait what?!  :o :o

Combine that with the WoJ about how super-powered beings cannot be crazy because they have the ability to change reality to suit their views and you can come up with really radical grand-unified-reality theories. 

Heck something along the lines of:  Humans believe that world is 6000 years old => Creates Uriel who believes the same => changes the universe so it really is only 6000 years old might work.  'course you've still got the problem of the 65 million year old Sue, but that's a minor point.  Right?   ;)

Foxed:
The gnostic connection is interesting vis a vis Sophia, one of the Aeons.

(click to show/hide)In Valentinian gnosticism, she created a deformed Aeon (according to the misogyny rampant in these old patriarchal religions, this deformity was because she conceived the Aeon without the aid of a male Aeon, but uh... we'll quietly ignore that for now).

The deformed Aeon, thinking he was the only being in the universe, created the material realm, which is inherently corrupt because of his influence. He also created Adam in Sophia's image (which he glimpsed as a reflection in the water when she peeked at what she'd made). Sophia sent spiritual Eve to imbue Adam with spirit. The deformed Aeon's goons caught Eve, but her spirit fled into the tree before she was defiled. The spirit, then, as the Serpent, gets Adam and Eve to eat of the tree and the rest, as you know, is slightly skewed religion.

The rest of gnosticism positions the deformed Aeon, the "Demiurge", as the Old Testament God and Jesus as an emanation from Sophia and the true God, the Light from Which the Aeons emanate. Perhaps Hecate is an emanation of Sophia and the White God an emanation from a male Aeon?
I mean, pare away the fiddly bits so Jim can keep not offending active religions, and you might have something there.

Serack:
I'd say that is an excellent interpretation attempt as long as we keep in mind that "aeons" and "emanations" are flawed attempts to explain something vast and that the characters within the DV have limited information about and that we as outside observers have even less information about.

Edit:  I tried to conveigh this in my theory post by first emphasizing my ignorance, and then irreverently describing the act of "emanating" a sub-aeon as "pooping."

Yuillegan:
Ah yes thank you, that's quite helpful. I start to see how something Mortals in the DV might see as a God, give them a Name and responsibilities might change an Aeon into something much more limited than it actually is. Or rather, the limits on Aeons are imposed by Choice. Choice defines Power, so no matter how much juice something has - it's useless until a Choice is made. Perhaps some Aeons have more Juice to power larger Choices. Maybe that's what Uriel meant when he "spoke" through Michael - Choices are what change reality, not power and these Choices create their own realities where "good" or "evil" prevail.

I guess Hecate might merely be the accepted view in the DV for something much greater than a minor Greek Goddess. She had so much power she had to be create something else to change what she was perceived as, for whatever goal. Perhaps to prevent the dissolution of a reality, or of many realities.

I certainly thought the Gnostic ideas where fascinating. I think if it were to be applied to DV, assume that the Almighty is the Sophia character (Or at least, an enormous entity that believes itself to be the Almighty in the DV) and that God created a deformed Aeon which we'll call Lucifer who rebelled in order to have Choice, but refused to let go of Power so could not get Free Will and therefore everything Lucifer does is really serving the Almighty's purposes. Also the WOJ about Uriel not necessarily being who we think he is is intriguing. Anyone know where that WOJ is? What is Uriel if he isn't actually an archangel? What is his real purpose, apart from the one he believes?

Foxed:

--- Quote from: Mira on January 29, 2015, 07:21:41 PM ---So here is a question, is there any Arab or Islamic mythology that would fit his role?

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Not really. I always thought he got the Gatekeeper job after offing the Mad Arab Abdul al-Hazred.

(Also, I found several more crazy theories to add to my first post!)

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