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Deirdre's Coin [Possible Spoilers]
The Badger:
--- Quote from: Acalanthis on December 16, 2014, 03:59:33 PM ---I'm thinking that Small Favor was less of a violation because Accord members are expected to be capable of taking care of themselves. If you don't have the muscle to back up your claim as an Accord member, then you're screwed, period.
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This isn't throwing an elbow at a fellow boxer. This is trying to shoot the referee.
Acalanthis:
--- Quote from: The Badger on December 16, 2014, 04:18:10 PM ---This isn't throwing an elbow at a fellow boxer. This is trying to shoot the referee.
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And what I'm saying is that Mab doesn't care if you shoot the ref. She's MAB, for crying out loud, her idea of rehab is attempting to assassinate Harry once a day. If the ref doesn't have the strength to take the bullet and give back as good as he got he has no business being a signatory.
The Badger:
--- Quote from: Acalanthis on December 16, 2014, 04:54:03 PM ---And what I'm saying is that Mab doesn't care if you shoot the ref. She's MAB, for crying out loud, her idea of rehab is attempting to assassinate Harry once a day. If the ref doesn't have the strength to take the bullet and give back as good as he got he has no business being a signatory.
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If the ref is supposed to be off limits in the letter of the Law, how is it NOT a issue with Mab? JB has been quite clear on that front.
Edited to add: I am not sure that the ref is off limits. But then again, you can't be sure of that either, most likely.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Acalanthis on December 16, 2014, 03:59:33 PM ---I'm thinking that Small Favor was less of a violation because Accord members are expected to be capable of taking care of themselves. If you don't have the muscle to back up your claim as an Accord member, then you're screwed, period.
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No, it was indeed a violation of the Accords. Not because one signatory attacked another (marcone), but because one signatory attacked a neutral third party acting as arbiter on behalf of the Accords themselves (Ivy). And Mab did say outright that he violated the accords, so there's not much question.
I think the issue was that she already owed Nic this specific prior personal debt, which she was obligated to reconcile before she could then step in and deliver the punitive action she wanted to on behalf of the Accords. Otherwise she'd have maneuvered herself into the same trap Harry brought up to Eldest Gruff, by taking direct action that made it impossible for the Fae to repay a debt. Obligation trumps everything including Pride, in Fae world
Edit: And fwiw Ive completely lost track of whatever you folks were trying to convey with the boxing metaphor...
Mith:
--- Quote ---I'm thinking that Small Favor was less of a violation because Accord members are expected to be capable of taking care of themselves. If you don't have the muscle to back up your claim as an Accord member, then you're screwed, period.
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That was an Accord violation. That's was Mab's revenge. I think it's more that she broke his power base, and made him break his word at the same time, meaning that although he was a cheat before, he is not as influential as he was before.
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