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Deirdre's Coin [Possible Spoilers]

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cass:

--- Quote from: Tami Seven on November 24, 2014, 01:36:11 PM ---Did we ever find out the name of Deirdre's Fallen? Her angel in the coin? If not, I'd like someone to ask JB about it if they get ever the chance.

I do have a suggestion for a name, "Urumiel" taken from the name of this sword, the Urumi, which resembled her hair:



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Going back to SmF, there's a Denariian called "Urumviel" (yes, I know there's an extra "v" in there) that's described as having lots of muscle and a ridge of leathery plates going down its spine.

We've got nothing on the name of Dierdre's denariian, from SmF or elsewhere, though, so Urumiel is as good as any other.

Mira:
  Or it could go down one of two ways..

Nick has the Holy Grail now, what he said he wanted, but not whathe wanted.  If Michael is right, that object if it is a weapon, isn't a conventional one.  It might backfire and Nick will give that coin up, plus his own..  He might even wield the Sword of Love in the end, because in spite of everything he did still love his daughter.  Yeah, I know, unlikely, but had to put it down...

Or more likely;
 
Nick is isolated, he has been brought down and is at rock bottom..  He wants revenge...He knows now about the love between Harry and Murphy.  He lost his love, he knows tricking Harry into picking up a coin doesn't work.. So for the sheer revenge factor, he finds a way to trick Murphy into it.. She's been hurt, she made a couple of poor decisions regarding the Swords, she may never be as effective [because of injuries] physically as she once was. 

All of the above, even if her and Harry get together, make her vulnerable to Nick possibly tricking her into picking up the coin.  Revenge not just on Harry, but on her as well.

kazimmoinuddin:
 I have this theory that the new kid has alot of info about denarians, their symbols, their names, their sigils, and lots more. I wonder if it might even know spells to summon the coins in some circumstances, especially considering harry has access to soul fire. If properly contained or protected, then the coin would be impossible to summon, but say nic is acting sentimental and simply carries the coin with him, it might be possible to track or even summon it to him. Nic could be forced to bargin for it, also, i am betting any resurrection spells for his daughter, include the coin being present.

Mira:

--- Quote from: kazimmoinuddin on November 25, 2014, 02:07:07 AM --- I have this theory that the new kid has alot of info about denarians, their symbols, their names, their sigils, and lots more. I wonder if it might even know spells to summon the coins in some circumstances, especially considering harry has access to soul fire. If properly contained or protected, then the coin would be impossible to summon, but say nic is acting sentimental and simply carries the coin with him, it might be possible to track or even summon it to him. Nic could be forced to bargin for it, also, i am betting any resurrection spells for his daughter, include the coin being present.

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  Except Deidre doesn't have a get out of Hades free card, and never will.  Remember what Hades said?  So while she may be safe from Heaven's justice, she will still pay for her crimes and I doubt that there is any bargain Nick can make to get her back.

Eire:
Last time you claimed that Murphy is already Denarian, now you say that she might pick up the coin... progress.
Your other theory-just no. Nick feelings towards Deidre have nothing to do with Love that was praised by St. Paul. He broke her, bended to his will abd used as a tool. He may even claim that he had best intentions.and be truly sorry after they were separated. But you know who.behaves exactly the same? Domestic abusers. Stalkers. Rapists. Shall we forgive them, because they are sad?

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