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Deirdre's Coin [Possible Spoilers]
The Badger:
--- Quote from: mid_life_crisis on November 24, 2014, 03:53:27 PM ---I hadn't considered this before. You know the events of the end of Skin Game quickly spread amongst the fallen. They (Nic and Anduriel) must have lost some serious credibility.
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Do you think that the Fallen care that Nick broke his word to Dresden and Mab? Not if he got the Grail as a result.
It is the OTHER supernatural entities which probably have the most problem. But honestly, this was one of the least credible parts of the story. It is not particularly believable that Nick did not betray his word many times in the past. And a lot of his 'peers' are not monks trying to keep records. They are long lived and Immortal beings! They just remember. So if Nick had ever done something like this, he was already toast credibility wise.
Or they ask the Archive perhaps what had been written about his before. Cause she remembers EVERYTHING. (Another reason to take her out)
The Badger:
--- Quote from: ebliss1 on December 04, 2014, 12:05:58 PM ---The one point to consider is that you can't use the Nic we've seen so far to predict how he will act in the future.
Consider that Nic now is in a much different place. His secret of how the noose can be used against him is out. Anduriel's power has been revealed, and with it, a way to counter one of Nic's biggest advantages. Nic's following has never seen him take it on the chin like that in their lives. Setbacks, yes, but not to that degree. Nic's standing among the supernatural set has taken a huge hit. He no longer has a favor he can call in from Mab. His two biggest Denarian supporters are either dead (Deirdre) or now bitterly opposed to him (Tessa). He has trespassed into the Vault of Hades and could conceivably be on Hades' list of People To Do Bad Things To.
Old Nic had his secrets intact, his followers (mortal and Denarian), his Marker with Mab, and his reputation. New Nic has none of that. He's going to be different now. How he is different, remains to be seen. He could become reckless, fearful, overly cautious, etc. It'll be interesting to see if/how Jim decides to shape Nic going forward.
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These are good points. I thought when Nick torqued off the Archive he was toast, particularly when you consider that his minions needed to write things down constantly to 'chat'.
I doubt any intelligent person interacting with him would think Nick had a 'reputation'. He was a Fallen.
I am not sure that Tessa is fully against her husband. After all, she stood next to him after Deidre died at Michael's house. Plus they aren't necessarily totally in the driver's seat. The Fallen have a say in Nic and Tessa's choices.
BUT...Nick now has the Grail. That has to mean something. That he wanted MORE was never in doubt. What he got was bad enough.
Tami Seven:
Nic has a plan, a scheme of some kind. This time it's not something 'stupid' like start a plague. This time he's serious bout it and will probably be very patient in implementing it, even if he has to do all the work himself.
We may not see him fro some tie, but I bet by the time of the BAT, we will see him again and he will be in the thick of it.
One thing he may set his sights on, is trying to retrieve all of the relics from Harry. How he might go about it, I have no idea, but after everything he did, everything he sacrificed, he's not going to just give up on them.
King Ash:
Nic and the fallen are known liars and cheats, Shiro mentions that they cheated in accords sanctioned duels, the idea that the immortal world will suddenly not trust him doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
Acalanthis:
From what I remember, Shiro never mentioned that those duels he had explicitly with Denarians involved were ever Accord-sanctioned. Even if they were, how would that work? I was under the impression that both combatants had to be members for that to happen, and the Knights were never part of the Accords.
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