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PirateJack:
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on December 20, 2014, 10:52:10 PM ---Okay. He still can't take England as a Demesne. Demesnes have to be in the Nevernever, and from a power level perspective control over England is worth a lot more than 1 Refresh.
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There is no Nevernever in this setting, at least not comparable to the Dresdenverse. There is Faerie and there is Hell, but they're no more innately magical than Earth is.
As for cost, what would you recommend for an England sized Demesne?
Sanctaphrax:
Something ridiculous. The ability to transform a major nation into a giant ice cream cone should be very expensive.
I'm not sure if Demesne is really the right Power here, though. It's not the only way to represent magical control over an area.
PirateJack:
Point. I guess we're running into the problem of different settings having conflicting rules. Magic in the Strange and Norrellverse is absolutely powerful and is not beholden to physics in even the tenuous way Dresdenverse magic is. Then again, I suppose most aspects of this can be attributed to thaumaturgy as much as Demesne. Might add in a new stunt instead of it.
Taran:
Why not set it up as part of a limitation or as a Ley-Line or Genus Loci that he's attuned with?
Or maybe he is the Genus Loci. I'm not sure how the mechanics of such a thing would work in reverse, but he could sponsor powers in return for debt. He can use that debt to power spells or get people to do what he wants. Not sure how that would work in an actual game, mechanically speaking, So maybe it's just a simple 'contacts' stunt where he can make crazy-assed declarations about people owing him debts of all sorts.
Another way is to make England Power a whole bunch of his Focus items...
Just throwing out ideas
PirateJack:
Trying to remain true to the setting, there are no ley lines, though there are Fisher King style Faerie Kingdoms. As for Genius Loci; magic is in everything and everywhere, and magicians merely persuade the natural elements to do as asked rather than enforce their will upon them (though after the decline of English magic this was not much understood). The Raven King was such a powerful magician that England itself did as he asked, though not without occasional quarrell.
The Raven King is also less of a source of magic, more of a... conduit. When he's around he makes other magicians capable of performing magic, though he doesn't appear to gain anything from it. Perhaps it's because he is both a magician and King, which the book makes a big deal out of. His reign is heavily romanticised by the time of the story's events and even his harshest critics still hold themselves loyal to the Raven King.
It kinda fits, but I don't think it's true to the book's themes on magic. I wanted to give him demesne because he owns Northern England. It's his by right as King and the land itself acknowledges that. That said, all the effects in the story could quite easily be modelled through thaumaturgy so perhaps it's not quite necessary.
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