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Origins of the Sidhe (High Fae) [CD spoilers]
Mira:
--- Quote ---OTOH, her walking stick probably represents an aspect of her authority and power, and thus while wielded with a mortal will, that portion of her cosmic force is in some ways more directly influencing events on the ground as you might say.
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Which makes you wonder, were mortals meant to wield such power? It has been theorized that the "Blackstaff" is Granny Winter's walking stick. It is wielded by Eb, a wizard of complete integrity, trusted not to abuse such power.. But isn't wielding it at all an abuse, since it was not meant for mortal hands? Things like sending a satellite crashing down on Ortega's head.... Was that something that Eb could have down unaided? Is he that powerful? Or was he aided by the Blackstaff, and did he go too far, no matter how good his motives?
Lost Merlin:
--- Quote from: Mira on May 08, 2014, 04:46:22 AM ---Which makes you wonder, were mortals meant to wield such power? It has been theorized that the "Blackstaff" is Granny Winter's walking stick. It is wielded by Eb, a wizard of complete integrity, trusted not to abuse such power.. But isn't wielding it at all an abuse, since it was not meant for mortal hands? Things like sending a satellite crashing down on Ortega's head.... Was that something that Eb could have down unaided? Is he that powerful? Or was he aided by the Blackstaff, and did he go too far, no matter how good his motives?
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I think that the WC using a team work spell probably would have been able to pull down that satellite, but I would imagine the reason for the staff is so that one person can work alone and the rest have plausible deniability or whatever.
As far as doing too much or going to far as Eb is concerned he is the black staff which iirc a position designed to cast aside all rules, regulations, and morals. The point of the position is to do what is necessary to complete the objectives that have best outcome for Humanity/Eb/WC. It does seem that weilding the staff does have consequences. In Ch we see black veins in Ebs are when he connects to the staff that seem to spread or pulse with the taking of souls.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Lost Merlin on May 08, 2014, 12:36:17 PM ---I think that the WC using a team work spell probably would have been able to pull down that satellite, but I would imagine the reason for the staff is so that one person can work alone and the rest have plausible deniability or whatever.
As far as doing too much or going to far as Eb is concerned he is the black staff which iirc a position designed to cast aside all rules, regulations, and morals. The point of the position is to do what is necessary to complete the objectives that have best outcome for Humanity/Eb/WC. It does seem that weilding the staff does have consequences. In Ch we see black veins in Ebs are when he connects to the staff that seem to spread or pulse with the taking of souls.
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That is not what I was trying to ask.. The stick belonged to an immortal power, should it even be wielded by a human, even a powerful wizard one.
Lost Merlin:
--- Quote from: Mira on May 08, 2014, 12:39:21 PM ---That is not what I was trying to ask.. The stick belonged to an immortal power, should it even be wielded by a human, even a powerful wizard one.
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I kind of purposely avoided that question because that's too much of a morals question. As far as the staff is concerned Mortals have to contend with many different powerful beings that they have no purpose encountering and no chance at standing up too (Loupe Garu) Maybe the stick levels the playing field for humans? If thats the case why not use it rather than hope/believe that someone else will save/help you out.
Should we use nuclear energy to power buildings because it is so powerful, but it also allows people to get their hands on nuclear weapons. It is a give and take. A weight of negatives against positives.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Lost Merlin on May 08, 2014, 12:36:17 PM ---As far as doing too much or going to far as Eb is concerned he is the black staff which iirc a position designed to cast aside all rules, regulations, and morals. The point of the position is to do what is necessary to complete the objectives that have best outcome for Humanity/Eb/WC. It does seem that wielding the staff does have consequences. In Ch we see black veins in Ebs are when he connects to the staff that seem to spread or pulse with the taking of souls.
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I would argue the exact opposite: that the position of Blackstaff exists specifically to preserve the rules and morals, that it exists to protect the Spirit of the Laws from their Letter, so that legalese shenanigans cant be used to sidestep the protections that the Laws were intended to provide. And this is the point I think Harry missed in the books: If you have one License to Kill, you dont give it to the cold-blooded murderer, you give it to the person you trust most to act responsibly with it. Harry jumped straight to the assumption that McCoy was a political stooge of the Council rather than, in some ways, its conscience.
--- Quote from: Lost Merlin on May 08, 2014, 12:54:40 PM ---I kind of purposely avoided that question because that's too much of a morals question. As far as the staff is concerned Mortals have to contend with many different powerful beings that they have no purpose encountering and no chance at standing up too (Loupe Garu) Maybe the stick levels the playing field for humans? If thats the case why not use it rather than hope/believe that someone else will save/help you out.
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Is it a moral question, or just one of whether there will be eventual Fallout for using a power intended for beings that cannot be killed? Similar to how Harry has been repeatedly cautions against tapping the Ley Line of Demonreach (Which I personally think he will not be able to safely do until HE is the Blackstaff)
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