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Origins of the Sidhe (High Fae) [CD spoilers]
Mira:
In The Midsummer's Night's Dream, the Fae simply snatched babies or young children from their cradles and raised them up to become Fae. That was what the dispute Titania and Oberon had, over such a child..
Didn't Lea also say something to Michael about wanting his first born?
Serack:
--- Quote from: Mira on May 07, 2014, 06:22:47 PM --- In The Midsummer's Night's Dream, the Fae simply snatched babies or young children from their cradles and raised them up to become Fae. That was what the dispute Titania and Oberon had, over such a child..
Didn't Lea also say something to Michael about wanting his first born?
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I never did manage to finish reading that play. I bought the complete works last year explicitly because of it's potential influence over the DF and got a couple few acts in last year before losing interest...
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Serack on May 07, 2014, 05:30:44 PM ---I have a couple other things that I desperately want to see Jim asked (things I've already have seen him answer, just not in public forums), but the one thing I don't know, really want an answer to, and suspect he will actually answer is... (leme try to word this in the most concise way possible...)
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If you could work in there a clarification of the term Sidhe as well. At first it seemed that Sidhe referred to a race of fae (like goblins, trolls, rawheads, etc) that were characterizes as exceptionally beautiful humanoids, and this race happened to be the dominant one in the courts. Later usage seemed to change Sidhe to mean the upper echelons of any fae race.
--- Quote from: Mira on May 07, 2014, 06:22:47 PM --- In The Midsummer's Night's Dream, the Fae simply snatched babies or young children from their cradles and raised them up to become Fae. That was what the dispute Titania and Oberon had, over such a child..
Didn't Lea also say something to Michael about wanting his first born?
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Yup, and in a manner of speaking she got her...
fwiw, In SK Bob also suggested that Harry steal a baby to buy his dept back from Mab after Lea traded it to her.
--- Quote from: Serack on May 07, 2014, 06:38:58 PM ---I never did manage to finish reading that play. I bought the complete works last year explicitly because of it's potential influence over the DF and got a couple few acts in last year before losing interest...
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In what was a remarkably logical (and thus out of character) statement from my high school english teacher, she pointed out that Shakespears plays were meant to be viewed, not read, and so the best way to experience them was to actually watch a production of them. I hate reading scripts (the feel so empty, for obvious reasons) so would much prefer to watch a good production of them. Couldnt point you to one that is particularly faithful though.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Serack on May 07, 2014, 06:38:58 PM ---I never did manage to finish reading that play. I bought the complete works last year explicitly because of it's potential influence over the DF and got a couple few acts in last year before losing interest...
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Watch it on DVD.. There are at least two versions out there.
Serack:
--- Quote from: Quantus on May 07, 2014, 06:49:16 PM ---If you could work in there a clarification of the term Sidhe as well. At first it seemed that Sidhe referred to a race of fae (like goblins, trolls, rawheads, etc) that were characterizes as exceptionally beautiful humanoids, and this race happened to be the dominant one in the courts. Later usage seemed to change Sidhe to mean the upper echelons of any fae race.
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I worded the question that way deliberately. Jim has certain canned answers to some quesitons and the Toot-toot growth question gets different versions of the same answer over and over, usually mentioning Mab and the Sidhe in relation to his growth. I was using his terms to trigger his memory of his canned response, and hopefully get new info out of him.
--- Quote from: Serack on October 16, 2010, 03:06:55 PM ---Toot-Toot
2009 Lexington signing:
Q: How big will Toot get?
A: Depends on how much influence he has in the world. That’s how the sidhe gain their size and power. Mab wasn’t always as big as she is now.
2010 Bitten by Books Q&A:
#150 Is Toot-toot’s increase in size due to his actions, or the title and followers he has acquired doing Harry’s bidding?”
It’s due to /Harry’s/ actions, mostly. Toot done hitched his star to Harry’s wagon. As a result, he’s taken actions he never would have taken on his own, some of which had major consequences. Toot has effectively become a much more powerful being than he was as an independent dewdrop faerie. The physical growth is a reflection of that fact.
I mean gosh, where do you think the Sidhe came from in the first place? :D
2009 Kansas City Q&A @41:45
With all the things Toot Toot and the Za Lord's guard have done that made a difference, and with Toot getting bigger, is that going to upset the balance in the Summer court?
The answer is no, because they are not Summer anyway, they are wildfae. And everybody over in summer is going to blame Harry for everything they do. They regard them as a tool and Harry is the guy holding it. Harry would tell you that he's probably the tool but... Anyway Toot Toot's been growing because that's where the Sidhe came from to begin with. They weren't always all tall and glamorous, they kind of got that way.
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Those are just the ones I included in the "compilation" there were many more that say essentially the same thing that I didn't include because they are redundant.
Edit: As for pinning down what it means for something to be Sidhe... Good gravy, did you not just see the wall of text I just generated trying to do just that? I'd prefer to settle for an answer to this little slice of the problem this go around... Then we could use any answers to shape future iterations of questions.
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