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Team UMO: a theory, for reference purposes
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Tami Seven on March 16, 2014, 07:57:59 PM ---Assuming that LR had had the shield a long time, and that most experienced Wizards either knew about it or had heard rumors about it, and that Maggie either knew about it or heard rumors about it.
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Didn't Eb only find out about it when trying to kill Lord R after Maggie's death, or am I misremembering ? If so, I'd say that argues against it being well known or rumoured.
--- Quote ---As much as I find this UMO theory interesting, I still don't think it answers the questions well enough about Maggie and LR.
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Well, that wasn't the scale of thing it was intended to explain. I don't actually see much needing explanation there, though. We know from Luccio in SmF that Maggie was a political radical within the White Council, and at odds with their power structure; if she wanted allies elsewhere, the White Court seem to be the least monstrous available option.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Orbweaver on March 17, 2014, 08:50:37 AM ---That would depend, I suppose, on what Harry actually gained by way of perspective.
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"Lies. She cannot change who you are."
Harry gained the impression that that meant he had some degree of control over his destiny at the scales he cares about. Mab then gains a Knight who is willing to stay Knight because he believes he can resist if asked to do anything he finds unpalatable.
Harry also gained, via Molly, a wake-up call on the degree of collateral damage it can cause when he goes with his gut and does not think things through, which i hope will sink in and make a significant difference.
--- Quote --- If Lash is against one or more of team UMO's goals... why on earth would that shadow have bothered revealing that information to Harry?
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I'm not convinced she is against their goals; I speculate that her purpose is to challenge him in order to enable him to be granted soulfire. Challenge specifically as opposed to defeat.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Quantus on March 17, 2014, 12:53:27 PM ---So does the much more limited context of Bob's assertion change you theory RE. Mab's involvement?
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Not really; Uriel pushing Harry into Mab's arms in Changes is still there, as is the benefit to Uriel and Mab both of the end of GS.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: peregrine on March 17, 2014, 03:14:01 PM ---Because he'd be dead.
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Why would she be thinking on that scale ?
Remember, we know from Luccio that Maggie is a political idealist who wants to change things for the better. Even if you don't find my notion of her planning a starborn as an extension of that tenable, I'm really not seeing why assume she would find killing him a more emotionally appealing use of her death curse than combining an enduring revenge on him with placing a restraint on his entire supernatural nation.
peregrine:
But even so, what she did doesn't require any sort of trap door. Like Harry said, she can just overlap her curse without needing to penetrate his protection. Stop the energy from ever getting to him, rather than stop him from absorbing it, or whatever.
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