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MacPhoenix:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on January 22, 2014, 06:28:17 PM ---Agreed, consistency and coherency of character is everything; villains and heroes alike work better if they have flaws that fit with their virtues and virtues that fit with their flaws.
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I think I see what you mean. Correct me if I have missed it. For example, Artemis Entreri from R. A. Salvatore's novels never had real relationships in any meaningful way so he becomes self reliable. However, he beholds other's relationships as weakness to be exploited.
This is great people keep it coming :D
Paynesgrey:
I really need to do a proper rewatch of B-5. A fine example of layered story-telling. Subtle themes and arcs, running along withing and below the surface.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Ulfgeir on January 22, 2014, 08:07:46 PM ---And if you have villains who are doing things just to be villains (and they know that they are the villains), then make sure they are right bastards, and ham it up. A good example would be Mr Croup & Mr Vandermar from Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere.
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I think they're a bit too self-aware and moustache-twirling to work, actually. Real right bastards who know they are and glory in it come out more like, oh, Subby and Goss in China Mieville's Kraken.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: MacPhoenix on January 23, 2014, 02:49:14 AM ---I think I see what you mean. Correct me if I have missed it. For example, Artemis Entreri from R. A. Salvatore's novels never had real relationships in any meaningful way so he becomes self reliable. However, he beholds other's relationships as weakness to be exploited.
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I don't know the book in question but that description sounds like a good example of what i had in mind.
MacPhoenix:
So you all would say the real issue with villains is not so much originality as there ability to affect the audience's emotions?
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