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--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on May 02, 2014, 12:49:17 AM ---I have to say, up until very recently, I saw no redeeming qualities about Grant Ward, a character on Marvel's Agents of Shield.  He's played by Brett Dalton, and he was my least favorite character.  But recently, there have been some new developments, and I'm looking at the character, and the actor playing him, in a new light.  And suddenly it popped into my head.

At least physically, Brett Dalton can pull off Harry.  We'll have to see if his acting range improves, and I don't know if he could deliver snark.  I still think the best physical and snark fit for Harry is Eric Balfour.

Is Dalton too pretty to play Harry?

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I think so, but only because you'd want there to be a marked contrast between him and Thomas. 

Longfellow:
Per the WOJ, it doesnt' matter to him what the actor looks like, it is how well they can play the character.

I'm 50/50 between Jim and some of you that feel the actor should look as much like the character as possible. 

However, here are some of my pet peeves regarding picking actors for my all-time favorite book series:

The "DO's"....
1.  They DO need to be of the same gender as the character in the book.
2.  They DO need to reflect their character's background, for example, if their character was born and raised in Chicago, then they should have a Chicago accent.
3.  They DO need to portray the personality of the character somewhat close to how he/she was described in the books.  Don't be one of those actors that doesn't even look at the books because they are so arrogant that they want to "put their own spin on the character".  These are established characters, don't think you can just go ahead and completely re-create them just because YOU are an AC-tor! 

The "DO NOT's"....
1.  They do NOT need to be the same height as the character is described in the book
2.  They do NOT need to have the same exact hair color, length of hair, or the same number of gray hairs!
3.  They do NOT need to be of the same color skin as the character in the book.

That being said, the lead actors probably should resemble their characters as much as possible, but as you get into the supporting cast, you can pretty much just get actors that will play the character well, not worrying too much about appearance, unless it relates directly to the story line.


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--- Quote from: Longfellow on May 02, 2014, 01:32:55 PM ---Per the WOJ, it doesnt' matter to him what the actor looks like, it how well the can play the character.

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Meh, if they ever do it Im not going to complain, we're just daydreaming about ideals here.

--- Quote ---1.  They DO need to be of the same gender as the character in the book.

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90% of the time yes, but Elementary proved to me that it can work great sometimes.

--- Quote ---2.  They DO need to reflect their character's background, for example, if their character was born and raised in Chicago, then they should have a Chicago accent.

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Aggreed, I so very tired of every foreigner having a genrically british accent.  But if it is set in that location then I prefer to tone down the accents as a whole.  So if its set in Chicago you dont need every character with a thick Chicago accent

--- Quote ---3.  They DO need to portray the personality of the character somewhat close to how he/she was described in the books.  Don't be one of those actors that doesn't even look at the books because they are so arrogant that they want to "put their own spin on the character".  These are established characters, don't think you can just go ahead and completely re-create them just because YOU are an AC-tor! 

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The only time Im ok with that sort of re-imagining is when A) the character as written just wouldnt translate to the screen for some odd reason (CGI notwithstanding) or B) its part of a larger re-imagining, usually because of cultural changes because it was written in a Present that was decades ago. 

--- Quote ---The "DO NOT's"....
1.  They do NOT need to be the same height as the character is described in the book

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Aggreed, but it is nice if possible, especially when the height it a relevant plot of character point.  Hugh Jackman is a fantastic wolverine, but he's huge. Originally the character's nature was influenced heavily by his Napoleon complex, especially when interacting with Cyclops who was a full foot taller (5'3" vs 6'3")

--- Quote ---2.  They do NOT need to have the same exact hair color, length of hair, or the same number of gray hairs!
3.  They do NOT need to be of the same color skin as the character in the book.

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Within the bounds of plot and genetics, yes.  But if you have two character that are supposed to be biologic siblings Id prefer they stay consistent, rather than rewrite the characters, per Do#3 (Im looking at you F4 reboot)



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If I recall, if Jim had his way, he has said that he would love Will Smith to be Harry.  I can see it, but then that would mean Thomas would have to be black too, unless Malcolm was black and Margaret was white, then they could get away with a black and white half brothers.

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--- Quote from: Longfellow on May 03, 2014, 12:23:44 AM ---If I recall, if Jim had his way, he has said that he would love Will Smith to be Harry.  I can see it, but then that would mean Thomas would have to be black too, unless Malcolm was black and Margaret was white, then they could get away with a black and white half brothers.

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Really?  Last WOJ on it I recall seeing had Michael Fassbender as Harry, and it was Alexis Denisof before that

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