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Comments thread for "The Laws of Magic: Part 6 of 8"
cephis:
Warlock means "oathbreaker" just tossing that out there
DrygonDM:
--- Quote from: Kristine on August 26, 2007, 05:51:38 PM ---So an untrained Wizard could be a Sorcerer?
Would the Alphas be considered Sorcerers because they have learned the one spell? or just minor talents?
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From my understanding, Harry considered them to be slightly more powerful then 'minor talents'
the phrase "One Trick Ponies" seems to come to mind, from Dead Beat.
I suppose that if they dedicated enough time, they could become more powerful
- but it would take a very long time for them to get anywhere.
And none of the "Wizards" - including Harry - seem willing to take them in and train them.
--- Quote from: cephis on August 30, 2007, 06:32:54 PM ---Warlock means "oathbreaker" just tossing that out there
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That's the great thing about words, see. Their meaning keeps changing.
In the Dresdenverse, Warlock is a "Shop term" for Sorcerer/Wizard/Witch and those "Have nots" of the Magical Community (the Lesser/Least powered) that have fallen to "the Dark Side".
KeyMasterOfGozer:
--- Quote from: DrygonDM on August 31, 2007, 12:56:43 AM ---Quote from: cephis on Today at 12:32:54 PM
Warlock means "oathbreaker" just tossing that out there
That's the great thing about words, see. Their meaning keeps changing.
In the Dresdenverse, Warlock is a "Shop term" for Sorcerer/Wizard/Witch and those "Have nots" of the Magical Community (the Lesser/Least powered) that have fallen to "the Dark Side".
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That's not really a far stretch, in a way, someone who has gone to the dark side has broken their oath to follow the Laws. Even if it's an unspoken oath. I can see how they might get from point A to point B.
DrygonDM:
Indeed.
Although I tend to agree with Harry, in the fact that if no one helps them to really understand what is going on,
more and more "new born Practitioners" are going to fall to the Dark Side.
Prevention being the best medicine for dealing with this problem.
The biggest thing about keeping secrets, is that is can also be used against you.
If no one can confirm who you really are, then you have no existance - in any 'legal' sense.
Both for the Mundane and the Supernatural Worlds.
Kristine:
--- Quote ---If no one can confirm who you really are, then you have no existance - in any 'legal' sense. Both for the Mundane and the Supernatural Worlds.
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for the topic at hand - I think it would be advantageous for a "new born Practitioner" to be known by the White Council so they can be trained and if a practitioner slips up and fractures one of the laws then, of course, it is more of an advantage to be unknown. I wonder if Molly had not had any interaction with a wizard if she would have ever been caught. How many patients in jails or asylums (in the Dresdenverse) are accidental victims of practioners who were never caught or who don't even know they did anything wrong..? Some game ideas there.
--- Quote ---The Fifth Law of Magic is: Never reach beyond the borders of life.
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I think the active word here is "reach" - if a spirit is within shouting distance and comes when you ask it, that is one thing, but if the person beyond the boarders of life wants to stay that way and a practitioner forces them back in some way, that is breaking the law (once again contingent on impeding a persons free will).
I think there are some grey areas here - what if a spirit comes back willingly and then is tethered to something in some way - is that reaching or does that break the law about enthralling someone? Is it reaching beyond if you go after a malicious spirit who has retreated to the Nevernever?
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