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Skin Game Predict-a-thon. [All the latest Spoilers permitted and encouraged]
Griffyn612:
My bet/hope is that this is the book where we find out that MDwaKotC.
I know haters going to hate, but Make It So!
cbmurphy:
1. We have been told that Nicodemus has a very specific target in mind, ostensibly kept in the Labyrinth of Daedalus. What is Nic trying to get his hands on and why?
I am guessing that Nicodemus' target is a person, not a thing. For a variation on a theme, I think he wishes to obtain a prior Archive.
2. Nicodemus apparently called in a marker from Mab to get Harry on the team. Does he have a specific plan for using Harry or did Mab twist his request? Which of Harry's capabilities will he admit to needing, and (given that this is Nicodemus after all), which abilities is he scheming for Harry to use?
I think Mab twisted Nic's request, because I am certain Mab is aware that Harry has had some success twarting Nic in the past, as well as a lot of practice in turning Faerie obligations sideways, a la Gruff Doughnut Delivery. Harry is her way to honor her obligation in letter and thwart it in spirit.
3. Jim has mentioned that the book will be "Ocean's Eleven". Who else did Nicodemus recruit? How will they interact with Harry?
Kincaid, because Nic's an ass.
Mavra, we've not seen her in a while.
+ your host of bads we have heard of by reputation or Harry will be introducing to us, either way
I suspect a member of the White Council of wizards, which will make Harry's new status a subject for their attention in the book after Skin Game.
4. Harry's general method of operation is to call on his friends for help. In this book, Harry is (initially) allowed one extra backup member on the crew. Who will it be? Which of Harry's other allies will "interfere" before the plot is over? 9/10/13 an interview was published that answers the first half of this question. (edit: Sort of) Those that guessed what he said in that interview (at least partially) have been logged by the curators, but this will probably go down as some kind of extra credit or something, so keep Predictin! (edit: And things might not be binary simple...)-Serack
Leaving this blank, since the answers are apparent'y already out there.
5. This is a Denarian book, so (unlike the last "end of the world" showdown), the Swords will almost certainly be present. In fact, there have been various hints... Which Sword wielders will appear in the next book and how will their interference/help affect the plot?
Sanya - Edited, had the name as "Sasha" prior
Murphy takes up a sword and keeps it this time
no idea
6. Mab is apparently against Nicodemus succeeding in this heist. In the Cold Days, we found that Mab had complex reasons for wanting Harry to kill Maeve. What are Mab's reasons in this book? Is it simple thwarting or is there something deeper?
Simple thwarting. The debt to Nic is embarassing and otherwise irksome, and Harry is a perfect riposte. In a way, it's just more devious than any other subterranean machination Mab could have in mind.
7. At the end of Cold Days, Harry needs to stay on the island to keep his growing headaches at bay. The start of Skin Games implies that those headaches will need to be resolved by the end of the book. Who or what is causing those headaches, and how will the whole thing get resolved by the end of the book?
Lash as a separate, sovereign entity to Lasciel.
8. One of the key components of the "Ocean's Eleven" movie is that there is a final twist/reveal. Given that we've got Nicodemus, Harry, Mab, and potentially Hades (and who knows who else) all trying to get the better of each other, if there's one thing you can count on it's some sort of last minute quintuple-cross. What will be the nature of the twist and how will it all fall out?
Nic's real game has nothing to do with stealing anything from Hades - it is a distraction for causing more uproar in Winter Faerie. Arctis Tor was test in concept, the real action happens at the Wall.
9. (Extra Credit) There are many WAG ("Wild A$$ Guess") theories on the boards, some crazier than others. Write up to three WAG theories (or make up your own) you believe are correct that will be confirmed (or at least have evidence in favor of) in Skin Games.
Cowl is Judas Iscariot, the original Denarian and Nic's superior.
The Merlin was assassinated off scene by the Black Council, and Eb's been fingered for it and is himself personally on the warpath against whomever did it.
10. (Extra Credit) This is that "free form" question where you can come up with anything else you think will be in this book. Specific quotes Harry might say (will he actually quote Ocean's Eleven? The movie will have come out already in Harry's timeline)? Tidbits about the White Council? The fate of Molly? Write down anything you want. Note that whatever you write must be specifically mentioned or hinted at in Skin Games in order to be worth credit.
Harry belittles some member of the heist by likening them to Sammy Davis Jr. with respect to the Frank Sinatra movie.
Molly has a Galadriel-when-offered-the-ring moment.
Harry references the Great Muppet Caper, "He brought the paper towels!"
Bwleon7:
1. We have been told that Nicodemus has a very specific target in mind, ostensibly kept in the Labyrinth of Daedalus. What is Nic trying to get his hands on and why?
They are going after Pandora's Box. The box contains the Spirit of Hope named Elpis. Nic wants it in order to destroy Elpis.
2. Nicodemus apparently called in a marker from Mab to get Harry on the team. Does he have a specific plan for using Harry or did Mab twist his request? Which of Harry's capabilities will he admit to needing, and (given that this is Nicodemus after all), which abilities is he scheming for Harry to use?
In order to get Elpis out something of nearly equal power has to be put in. I believe Nic is planning to put Harry in so he can get Elpis out and destory her.
3. Jim has mentioned that the book will be "Ocean's Eleven". Who else did Nicodemus recruit? How will they interact with Harry?
One or two other Denarians maybe an outsider will be present, Summer might send someone, maybe Fix and/or Sarissa.
4. Harry's general method of operation is to call on his friends for help. In this book, Harry is (initially) allowed one extra backup member on the crew. Who will it be? Which of Harry's other allies will "interfere" before the plot is over? 9/10/13 an interview was published that answers the first half of this question. (edit: Sort of) Those that guessed what he said in that interview (at least partially) have been logged by the curators, but this will probably go down as some kind of extra credit or something, so keep Predictin! (edit: And things might not be binary simple...)-Serack
Micheal though not by Harry's choice. Micheal will originally be there to stop Harry due to him working with Nic. At some point Micheal we understand the stakes and will later redeem himself by taking Elpis' place in Pandora's Box.
5. This is a Denarian book, so (unlike the last "end of the world" showdown), the Swords will almost certainly be present. In fact, there have been various hints... Which Sword wielders will appear in the next book and how will their interference/help affect the plot?
upon return with Elpis, Tessa and other Denarians that Nic had waiting will attack and Sanya, Murphy and a couple others ( Tomas, Molly and/or Lea) that Harry had in waiting will come to Harry's aid. Murphy and some other new person (Justine maybe) will wield swords along with Sanya to help Harry.
6. Mab is apparently against Nicodemus succeeding in this heist. In the Cold Days, we found that Mab had complex reasons for wanting Harry to kill Maeve. What are Mab's reasons in this book? Is it simple thwarting or is there something deeper?
Elpis is the spirit of Hope. Upon release she might be able to increase the worlds hope to the point were people are harder to get infected by Nemesis. Or freeing Elpis will please Hephaestus (the one who created Pandora) and he will create weapons and Armor that are effective against Nemesis.
7. At the end of Cold Days, Harry needs to stay on the island to keep his growing headaches at bay. The start of Skin Games implies that those headaches will need to be resolved by the end of the book. Who or what is causing those headaches, and how will the whole thing get resolved by the end of the book?
Lash will return and be pulled out of Harry's head where she has been hiding while trying to form a body for herself. His headaches will be gone once she is no longer in his head and has a body of her own. She will be an ally to Harry.
8. One of the key components of the "Ocean's Eleven" movie is that there is a final twist/reveal. Given that we've got Nicodemus, Harry, Mab, and potentially Hades (and who knows who else) all trying to get the better of each other, if there's one thing you can count on it's some sort of last minute quintuple-cross. What will be the nature of the twist and how will it all fall out?
Someone is infected by Nemsis. Likely one of the other Denarians.
9. (Extra Credit) There are many WAG ("Wild A$$ Guess") theories on the boards, some crazier than others. Write up to three WAG theories (or make up your own) you believe are correct that will be confirmed (or at least have evidence in favor of) in Skin Games.
-Lash will return
-Justine will wield a sword
-Micheal will betray Harry then redeem himself.
10. (Extra Credit) This is that "free form" question where you can come up with anything else you think will be in this book. Specific quotes Harry might say (will he actually quote Ocean's Eleven? The movie will have come out already in Harry's timeline)? Tidbits about the White Council? The fate of Molly? Write down anything you want. Note that whatever you write must be specifically mentioned or hinted at in Skin Games in order to be worth credit. Here is my very wild guess
Since we are dealing with Greek mythology, at some point someone is going to ask if Harry is a god. Harry will say yes. When asked why he said yes he will refer to the wisdom of Winston. People will look at him in a confused manner and he will say something along the lines of "Winston.....Winston Zeddemore. Ghostbusters.....oh come on people are you telling me you guys really haven't seen Ghostbusters???"
Serack:
The blurb for SG had some info on #1, and all answers that hit on what the blurb indicates as the target have been recorded before anyone could edit their answer to reflect its contents.
The Predict-a-thon had been locked to allow for this record to be made before anyone could edit their answers and is now unlocked.
Please share more theories about how Mab=Zargolep! -Serack
Oh, and please theories only, save discussion for other topics.
kazimmoinuddin:
I just realized something, there have been all these mentions of an ocean's elven vibe,a crack team of thieves for a heist, but the thing is, they dont simply rob a place by brute force, they do it by stealth, the mark never knows they have been played/robbed till the prize and the team are in the clear.
According to the blurb, (click to show/hide)the gang will be breaking into a high security vault to access a nevernever portal, into a mystical nevernever vault. SO they cant just charge in, they need to get to the vault, with out the alarms going off at all, or at least til they are done. This seems to be tricky as this is the perfect place for some one to back stab the others. Do we think the vaults will be filled with a horde, or possibly a mystical safety deposit box? Can a mystical being like hades be played? He seems the type to declare bloody vengence.
Also, it is believed murphy will be part of the team as harry's back up, but as an ex-cop and a member of a cop family, she will be really unhappy with being part of a heist crew.
In the justice league unlimited cartoon, hades was said to have a huge magical library containing all magical secrets. WHile i doubt there is a library in that vault, the good stuff would be hidden in it. A compendium or a secret book of lore.
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