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Your Pet Urban Fantasy Cliche Peeves
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Galvatron on May 06, 2013, 03:43:37 PM ---I don't mind first person at all, but UF is kinda overrun with first person stories and something different is always nice.
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I can't think of a contemporary UF Novel that isn't in first.
What I would like to see myself is more of the sort of things you can do with really strongly defined and interestingly unreliable first-person narrators that you see a lot in UF (Felix Castor, Jayne Heller, "Bob Howard", possibly Sandman Slim though I have no extra-textual reasons to believe that one's being done on purpose) being done in other streams of SF. Am working on it in the current project, but I can't write everything I'd like to read.
Spot:
My biggest pet peeves in UF:
* Unwanted romance. Not just sex, romance. When I read a book with a strong character, be they male or female, they don't necessarily need a significant other for the story to progress. And even if they did have a romantic partner, that relationship doesn't need a front and center description all the time. It's like in real life, how often do you go on and on about your amazzinnnnnnnnnng relationship at work? Because in an urban fantasy story, whatever the character is doing (fighting bad guys or hunting down clues to something that the bad guys did) it's all "work".
* Detailed descriptions of sex. Accepted that sex is something authors like to write about and people like to read about, but not in urban fantasy. Given the number of books out there with such scenes, we almost need a new sub-genre "Erotica with urban fantasy elements".
* Predictable use of other author's ideas. Let's talk about sparkly vampires for a minute. Those books have sub-par writing and a very horrible story line, but that aside, at least there's a different reason for vampires not going out in the sunlight. Take also for example, the Toby Daye books by Seanan McGuire. There's a whole dark side to the older Fae myths that is just fascinating. The stories are different and that's what makes the books so awesome. If the author has taken a species or a myth that has been done a million times before and changed nothing about it, I lose interest in the books.
* Lack of a sense of humour. I don't expect all books to be funny. Far from it. But I do expect at least the main character to have a sense of humour. Twisted jokes? Perfect. Silly jokes? Wonderful! After all, we read to get away from the humdrum reality of life. What better way than if you can chuckle at something?
I could go on and on, but that would make me sound like a whiny puppy. So I will stop. ;D
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Spot on May 07, 2013, 06:27:57 PM ---
* Detailed descriptions of sex. Accepted that sex is something authors like to write about and people like to read about, but not in urban fantasy. Given the number of books out there with such scenes, we almost need a new sub-genre "Erotica with urban fantasy elements".
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I've heard them called "vampire shaggers"; I prefer the term "nosferotica" but I can't seem to get it to take off.
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* Lack of a sense of humour. I don't expect all books to be funny. Far from it. But I do expect at least the main character to have a sense of humour. Twisted jokes? Perfect. Silly jokes? Wonderful! After all, we read to get away from the humdrum reality of life. What better way than if you can chuckle at something?
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It depends on the characters, but certainly, there is a specific flavour of humour that people in dangerous jobs often develop to help cope, and more of that among urban fantasy characters in similarly dangerous situations would be appealing to me.
Spot:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on May 07, 2013, 06:46:31 PM ---I've heard them called "vampire shaggers"; I prefer the term "nosferotica" but I can't seem to get it to take off.
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I'd much rather we didn't have to call them anything at all. ;) But yes, if there was a genre called Nosferotica, I may be tempted to pick one up one day.
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on May 07, 2013, 06:46:31 PM ---It depends on the characters, but certainly, there is a specific flavour of humour that people in dangerous jobs often develop to help cope, and more of that among urban fantasy characters in similarly dangerous situations would be appealing to me.
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Exactly. And that sense of humour is what helps us in real life, when things are not going exactly the way we want them to. Why should any character in a book be different? Because that's how you care about characters in books, when you can identify with them, be it one trait or all of them.
Snowleopard:
I rather like the term "nosferotica' Neuro.
Maybe it's too high class for those who like that kind of thing. ::) ::)
I agree with all you said Spot and I don't think you're being a whinny puppy about it.
"Lack of a sense of humour. I don't expect all books to be funny. Far from it. But I do expect at least the main character to have a sense of humour. Twisted jokes? Perfect. Silly jokes? Wonderful! After all, we read to get away from the humdrum reality of life. What better way than if you can chuckle at something?"
A lot of cops and emergency responders have, what they call, gallows humor. They have to find
the funny in what are often grotesque and tragic circumstances - in order to stay sane.
I'm reminded of hearing the cockpit recording of a pilot trying to bring in a damaged plane.
The plane's complete hydraulics system messed up and he could only turn the plane in right hand
circles. Traffic control told him that they'd cleared one of the runways for him.
This calm voice from the plane - "Oh you want me on a specific runway - I was hoping just to
hit Kansas." Side note - they brought the plane down in a crash that looks horrific but a vast majority
of those on board, including the cockpit crew, survived. Further note: - in every test simulation
they've done of that particular crash - NOT ONE PERSON SURVIVED.
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