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3rd Person Omniscient
slrogers:
You know I’m trying to open up a can of worms by contradicting Jim’s word on the subject. I don’t mean to offend anyone, but in September 2004 when he wrote this short statement about the omniscient point of view, I was left confused. He wrote, “Omniscient viewpoint has been out of style for maybe a century.” But of the examples he gave for the different points of view I like his Omniscient best:
First Person--Written from the interior perspective of one character. "I went to the store and bought cookies. I ate them." The Dresden Files are first person POV.
Second Person--Written as if being described to the reader as their own actions. "You went to the store and bought cookies. You ate them."
Third Person--Written from an exterior perspective to one or more characters. "He went to the store and bought cookies. He choked on them and died."
Omniscient Viewpoint--Told from the perspective of an outside, all-knowing observer. "He went to the store, never knowing that the cookies were the instrument of the Grim Reaper. If only he'd purchased milk to go with them, he might have made it. But he didn't, and so sealed his fate with sweet, corrupt chocolaty goodness."
So a warning goes here, American publishers do discourage 3rd person omniscient, especially if it isn’t limited to only being inside only one person’s head per chapter (or book). They might not even read past the first paragraph if they sense you might be writing in this POV. But I’m going to advocate for it.
It looks like their primary concern is that it was too easy for the novice to get lazy and say something impersonal and detached, like "she was angry," instead of something more engaging, like "she stormed out of the room, slamming the door behind her." Writing what your main character sees instead of what the other character’s feel is more exciting.
In addition to that, some readers find it very distracting jumping from one head to another. I think I can liken it to the “shaky cam” of cinematography. While in cinematography the effect is used to feel closer to the action and get more of a first-person perspective, omniscient point of view, I believe, is used to get a broader understanding and convey more of an authoritative perspective. But since it can jump around a lot and since readers can’t read your thoughts it is harder to see where you might confuse them. So it is highly advisable that the POV shifts are limited as much as possible and used with extreme caution.
But since many of the classics are written using this POV, and it is so powerful, I decided to take the current American sediment of “don’t write in 3rd person omniscient” as a dare. I’m a bit of a rebel that way. I’m still learning, and I don’t know how well I’ve done (I still haven’t sold a million books yet, or even close). But check it out if you’re interested and tell me how I can do better.
https://www.createspace.com/4036130?ref=1147694&utm_id=6026
http://www.amazon.com/S-L-Rogers/e/B00BZSWRMU/ref=ntt_dp_epwbk_0
Quantus:
I think in that instance he was more referring to the 3rd-person omniscient in the Universal Omniscient "Little Did he Know" style and/or else the 3rd-Person Objective, at least in terms of the "went out of style" statement. I mean, LotR was 3rd-omni, and is obviously well-received even today. In general though, modern audiences tend to prefer narrators with more of a personality and/or distinctive Voice than many of the 3rd-Omni forms allow, which is why getting in the heads of characters existing in the story is a popular way to accomplish it.
That being said, Conventions are there to be challenged and broken, so I look forward to what you can do with it :)
Snowleopard:
Writing, like fashion, has fads and phases.
LizW65:
What would one call the type of third-person narration used in, say, The Maltese Falcon, in which we are told what Sam Spade says and does, but never get inside his head at all?
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--- Quote from: LizW65 on April 09, 2013, 08:12:17 PM ---What would one call the type of third-person narration used in, say, The Maltese Falcon, in which we are told what Sam Spade says and does, but never get inside his head at all?
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Never read it, but based on my relatively limited understanding of the subtle distinctions of terms it would be Third Person, Objective
3rd person being the POV, and Objective being the Voice, as opposed to 3rd person Subjective or 3rd person omniscient
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