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Has Mab become something more? [CD Spoilers]
Ms Duck:
also, Mab became Queen of Winter 1,000 years ago. That doesn't say she wasn't Queen of Air and Darkness 1600 years ago, or maybe even Queen of Ghosts 500 years before that...
she may have been sidhe much longer then she was winter queen, ya know :D
123456789blaaa:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on March 08, 2013, 12:58:04 AM ---also, Mab became Queen of Winter 1,000 years ago. That doesn't say she wasn't Queen of Air and Darkness 1600 years ago, or maybe even Queen of Ghosts 500 years before that...
she may have been sidhe much longer then she was winter queen, ya know :D
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Well the WoJ implied that it was specifically the Fae Mantle that was causing her to "become the fun-loving Mab we know today" so thats why I was assuming it.
matolilyfu:
--- Quote from: 123456789blaaa on March 07, 2013, 09:44:30 PM ---Obviously to Jim Free Will is extremely important for examining good and evil in the Dresdenverse. I on the other hand to not even believe Free Will exists in RL. Obviously this means that my thoughts on good and evil are going to be very different than what I think is the objective truth in the Dresdenverse.
Basically, are you asking about my thoughts or what I think is true in the Dresdenverse?
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I believe Mab is evil. I believe that any human in DV who deals with Mab, and doesn't assume she is evil and behave accordingly, is making an error. I'd be curious if anyone else agrees with me, of course.
But, what I was asking was in response to Ms Duck's statement -
--- Quote ---Mab knows that if she fails, the outsiders will eat everything on earth. she will sacrifice herself and every soldier under her command to stop this.
the difference between a monster and a hero is what your are willing to die for.
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- whether Mab, because of her purpose guarding the Gate, should be considered heroic if she dies pursuing that purpose?
Duncan Cain:
Mab is not evil. She is just an firm believer in the statement “the end justifies the means”. In a way, she is like Marcone taken to extremes.
Hollorr:
--- Quote from: matolilyfu on March 08, 2013, 01:49:22 AM ---I believe Mab is evil. I believe that any human in DV who deals with Mab, and doesn't assume she is evil and behave accordingly, is making an error. I'd be curious if anyone else agrees with me, of course.
But, what I was asking was in response to Ms Duck's statement - - whether Mab, because of her purpose guarding the Gate, should be considered heroic if she dies pursuing that purpose?
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Okay you "I'd be curious if anyone else agrees with me, of course." what if I disagree?
Well I see your point but I disagree on a few points.
In that case is beowulf heroic? or did he just go kill because thats what he did as a job?
I think it depends on what you think is heroic. Mab isn't a monster and she isn't a hero...I guess you would call her a kreia from starwars knights of the old republic.....if you don't know the game...Kreia is the mentor of the Exile in the game..she is 1 dark scary gray lady...don't mess with her.
anyway I believe mab isn't evil neither is she a good person....Mab is someone you need..doesn't matter if she is pure evil or good...seems like how Mab is played is something like a gray hero...like Batman or Green archer.
"Mab knows that if she fails, the outsiders will eat everything on earth. she will sacrifice herself and every soldier under her command to stop this.
the difference between a monster and a hero is what your are willing to die for."
hmm sounds like a hero turned into a rogue hero basically a Green arrow new tv show...willing to use anyone and ready to kill ppl.
A anime that is like this is called aesthetic of a rogue hero here is a trailer for the anime if anyone wants to check it out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E33-a0MQHC8
Anyway how to deal with Mab is like dealing with anyone that has power...you go in with a calm mind and try to make a deal/make your case...if she wants you dead or out of the job there is nothing u can do.
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