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Has Mab become something more? [CD Spoilers]
BlahBlah:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on March 04, 2013, 08:30:28 PM ---I like to think of the Dresdenverse soul as source of light. A typical mortal's soul shines bright, and is the shape of their body, for lack of a better form.
Like Bob has described, mortals swap bits of their soul's constantly. When they hug, emote, get jiggy, or whatever else brings them close.
I think for beings like Mab, who started out with a mortal soul, their soul slowly fades over time. Maybe not in size, but in brightness. Like a light fading. Eventually, like Butcher describes it, it can seem to completely dissipate, where its no longer there.
I think in Mab's case, and most of the Fae, they still retain their soul initially, but it fades. But I think there's still enough there to interact with other souls around them.
In this case, Mab has had regular interaction with Sarissa for years, and I'm sure on some level, they've either shared or reflected each other's souls. Mab has also had more contact with the mortal world through Harry, who we all know is big on soul. And she's now bonded to Harry through the WK mantle ceremony, and the mantle itself.
So the idea that any remnant soul hasn't been affected by those around her seems unlikely. It seems more likely that whatever soul she has left has been influenced by Sarissa, Harry, and any other mortals. And since Sarissa and Harry both seem to be big softies, I'd say that's had a softening affect on Mab.
I don't know that she's gotten her soul 'back', so much as what she had left has been slightly rekindled by her relations with mortals. I don't think she's going soft and fuzzy on us any time soon, but I'd say it allows her enough to remember the feelings she might once have had. The light of her soul might still be dim, but it might be brighter than before.
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A wonderful theory. It is also consistent with Odin's conversation with Harry at the bar. Odin hints that Mantles do not necessarily change their owner, and recommends friendship and spending time outside of Arctis Tor. I was always a little puzzled by this conversation; it seemed tangent to the discussion about Mantles and DR. But if friends and human interaction are essential to preserving your soul, then Odin is essentially saying that Harry needs plenty of both.
Note too, how Mab takes Molly to her apartment instead of Arctis Tor after Harry forces her promise on DR.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on March 08, 2013, 06:44:33 PM ---I see the letter opener as a spanking, really.
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A bit rough for my taste.
--- Quote ---Harry got the message loud and clear.
slade was made an example of.
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Sure, Mab does not do evil for the sake of some abstract absolute evil. Making an example of someone can be quite effective but it can be seen as an evil act.
--- Quote ---Am I arguing in favor of absolutism? Utterly not, I am of the bleeding heart liberal faction.
But if doing such things is evil, 95% of human governments in history are evil.
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They probably were. Read enough history and you will see :)
KrelianZG:
--- Quote from: Arjan on March 08, 2013, 10:29:12 PM --- They probably were. Read enough history and you will see :)
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I won't argue with the moral judgement here, but if that's the case, doesn't that force you into a place where you're just a victim of what is inevitably a corrupt establishment?
I don't want to dispute it, that just seems like a rather depressing worldview to me...
Arjan:
--- Quote from: KrelianZG on March 08, 2013, 10:32:49 PM ---I won't argue with the moral judgement here, but if that's the case, doesn't that force you into a place where you're just a victim of what is inevitably a corrupt establishment?
I don't want to dispute it, that just seems like a rather depressing worldview to me...
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Current government were I live leaves much to wish for but it is not that bad if you compare it to 95% of the governments in history.
There has been moral progress so I am not that depressed about it.
KrelianZG:
--- Quote from: Arjan on March 08, 2013, 11:05:54 PM ---Current government were I live leaves much to wish for but it is not that bad if you compare it to 95% of the governments in history.
There has been moral progress so I am not that depressed about it.
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I'll leave this after this post so we don't get into TT territory, but a lot of governments are totally acceptable to their people, but condemned by the outside world. And vice versa. And everything in-between.
As far as the topic is concerned, "evil" is very obviously a subjective definition for us. But in the DV, I think Mab is very much NOT in the "evil" part of the supernatural spectrum.
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