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Proof that Time Travel Harry did not fix Little Chicago?? (CD Spoilers)
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on February 13, 2013, 07:28:15 PM ---I'm still not seeing why it resets the clock except for the you who has travelled into the past and anyone you directly affect. That people can make free choices in their present doesn't mean that once that choice has been made it is subsequently fluid, at least by my reading of Odin's comment about temporal inertia. (Which in a universe with time-travel implies that the broad strokes of the future are not very mutable, save by focused and significant choice, but that's pretty much what Uriel's been implying when talking about most people not exercising free will very often.)
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because it removes the choice of the people in the then now, for lack of a better term. when you get down to it, with enough time travel free will would become asymptotic to zero.
the fact that in the DF zillions of alternate universes exist implies to me that time is not static or deterministic, but fluid. I think that by going back, you create entire logic trees of alternate realities..
If any TTH did change LC, its not ours. its the one from an alternate future that may have been.
Griff- merlin is a whole different kettle of fish. I'm not even convinced that it involved time travel at all, frankly. If you have a near immortal who calculates he has to cast a spell in six different times to make it work, there's no reason he cant just set his calendar and do it.
Cenphx:
Right, merlin might live long enough to cast the spell 5 or 6 times, but isnt the problem tha Merlin did it 5 times *simulatenously*? So he couldnt have done it at 5 different points in his timeline. (im not even gonna try to touch the free will in a time travel world issue-but im reading along)
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: Cenphx on February 13, 2013, 08:49:38 PM ---Right, merlin might live long enough to cast the spell 5 or 6 times, but isnt the problem tha Merlin did it 5 times *simulatenously*? So he couldnt have done it at 5 different points in his timeline. (im not even gonna try to touch the free will in a time travel world issue-but im reading along)
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if he did that he has skills at time travel are above anything Mab has done in the books. were getting back into the 'TTH is a god' theory land there.
Cenphx:
Im not necessarily disagreeing with you there. I mean, you would have to be so precise as to only pull a tiny piece of the fabric of space-time that related to you and no one else. The gravitational pull of black holes only stretches space-time, right? Imagine what kind of energy it would take to *fold* space-time. Now im getting really interested in whether Jim will explain Merlin's DR spell any more than he has already.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on February 13, 2013, 08:26:32 PM ---because it removes the choice of the people in the then now, for lack of a better term. when you get down to it, with enough time travel free will would become asymptotic to zero.
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Why do they have to have choice in the then now ? Is not choice in the now now enough ?
--- Quote ---the fact that in the DF zillions of alternate universes exist implies to me that time is not static or deterministic, but fluid. I think that by going back, you create entire logic trees of alternate realities..
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I took the recent WoJ as indicating that there's a branching tree of realities arising from every point of exercise of free will anyway.
--- Quote ---If any TTH did change LC, its not ours. its the one from an alternate future that may have been.
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If that was intended as metahumour at the "this statement floats in a void with no causal connection to anything preceding" level, I salute your subtletly. If not, I'll have to ask you to unpack your reasoning a bit more.
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