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The Gatekeeper fixed LC and other PG musings [spoilers up to CD]
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: wyltok on February 18, 2013, 12:06:49 AM ---No need to go that far. Let's consider the events of last October, when we were presented with a pin-up calendar image of Molly as Winter Lady. Had anyone actually looked at that image and reached that conclusion, with the evidence available at that time, they would have deserved to be disregarded and/or flamed. After all, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and up until then, we had never seen anyone not of Fae blood pick up the mantle.
(And we were told that Lily was the first not-fully-Fae Lady, even! And then Jim told us that Lily was lying to herself, and she had been forced to choose Fae by the mantle! See how all the evidence points away from it being possible for Molly to become Winter Lady?).
And yet... that's exactly what happened. And yet, just because it's what happened, it doesn't mean that logic would have allowed us to see it coming. It just means that, as Spock pointed out a long time ago, logic is not the only path to wisdom.
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But I did come to the conclusion that molly would become winter, thru logic...
several years prior to that. The pic was just icing on the cake :D
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on February 18, 2013, 01:50:54 AM ---But I did come to the conclusion that molly would become winter, thru logic...
several years prior to that. The pic was just icing on the cake :D
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If "Molly travels back in time and gets left behind, eventually completing a Darkhallow and ascending to become Mab" is the same as "Molly became Winter Lady when Maeve died", then Vairelome and I were right about Lea's madness being because she was possessed my HWWBh. http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,32204.msg1403385.html#msg1403385
"Lea was possessed by HWWBh" = "Lea was Infected by Nemesis".
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on February 18, 2013, 11:32:10 PM ---If "Molly travels back in time and gets left behind, eventually completing a Darkhallow and ascending to become Mab" is the same as "Molly became Winter Lady when Maeve died", then Vairelome and I were right about Lea's madness being because she was possessed my HWWBh. http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,32204.msg1403385.html#msg1403385
"Lea was possessed by HWWBh" = "Lea was Infected by Nemesis".
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there were always two versions of that, Molly/ Mab and Mab/ LC.
the first took some serious WAGs and may or may not have any relevance.
the second came dang close, and also predicted a connection between Molly and winter without ever specifying what that connection was.
the reason for the two was the question : How does Mab predict the future?
If it was time travel, then Mab is a character we know now by another name. Hence, Molly.
If it was by precognition, then Mab can just be herself. But she still kidnapped molly for a reason, and that reason has something to do with winter; ergo, Molly is important to winter..
then I got on my logic choo choo train and drove around for a bit.
;D
and Ill accept your conclusion about Lea and Nemesis, frankly. its close enough for hand grenades to me; when making WAGS we cant be held responsible for elements Jim hasn't shown yet.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on February 19, 2013, 12:18:13 AM ---there were always two versions of that, Molly/ Mab and Mab/ LC.
the first took some serious WAGs and may or may not have any relevance.
the second came dang close, and also predicted a connection between Molly and winter without ever specifying what that connection was.
the reason for the two was the question : How does Mab predict the future?
If it was time travel, then Mab is a character we know now by another name. Hence, Molly.
If it was by precognition, then Mab can just be herself. But she still kidnapped molly for a reason, and that reason has something to do with winter; ergo, Molly is important to winter..
then I got on my logic choo choo train and drove around for a bit.
;D
and Ill accept your conclusion about Lea and Nemesis, frankly. its close enough for hand grenades to me; when making WAGS we cant be held responsible for elements Jim hasn't shown yet.
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I also take credit for being right about Demonreach being an island prison. I originally said it was an island, and that's half of "island prison". 8) ;) ;D
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on February 19, 2013, 12:34:28 AM ---I also take credit for being right about Demonreach being an island prison. I originally said it was an island, and that's half of "island prison". 8) ;) ;D
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you get one nano point for that. ;)
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